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| It was obvious it would kick off if we won and i said the Fev `fans` would be `up for it` with it been a semi and on TV. The pictures and videos taken should be put on here so everyone can judge for themselves and the culprits can be dealt with not hidden away like last time.
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| Quote: gingdong "I aint trying to wind any fka up pal, just know what i saw, i walked behind it all with my wife and son trying to keep them away from it all and i saw 2 groups of lads battling away, both parties well up for it, so it is a bit annoying when i then read it was all one sided, it wasnt and then [sizewalked by a cop van full of banged up fax fans,[/size yes Rovers have a problem, but so do fax'"
Must have different Police vans in Fev, None i have seen in west yorkshire have clear windows in so people can look in/out they have cages in the back of them and NO WINDOWS.
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| Quote: spanishbob "But surely you put two and two together and make a couple of dozen.
Your advice earlier was to wait and see what comes out of it, I suggest you take your own advice.
What you have to realise is that not everyone in halifax thinks every fev fan is scum.'"
Well reading this forum it does appear that way, i do know the whole incident was also filmed,
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| I'm not going to get into all of this, because i wasn't there.
But it is starting to get really serious now, and it's not just against us where trouble kicks off..
Every team does have their idiots, we know that, but if that was the sole reason then there would be violence throughout the league..
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| There were more films/photographs taken last night of the violence I cannot believe there will be no evidence to support convictions for public order offences at the very least. I am aware people were handcuffed by the police and taken away. I am aware that prosecutions are likely.
The bones will be picked over when the dust has settled. There were so many factors from last night to consider and many to act upon - NOW!!
I am heartily fed up of sheeite like this. Last night was a right spectacle of rugby for the neutral and fax fans. We ought to be discussing that - not this sheeite.
I am seriously hacked off today - well down in the dumps - and NOT for the result either. I've seen Fev lose afoore and will do again. But this stuff sickens me.
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| So come on, if you have the footage, you have the power. And don't be coy about this. If you have a film of a light blue/white shirt - don't protect these people under the guise of "it was fev, they were asking for it", get em shopped - regardless of who the were supporting!
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| Maybe some Fev fans will take their heads out of the sand now and admit the club has a BIG problem now? - Its ok to say it takes 2 to tango (and I agree to a point) BUT the BIG question is why did the Fev fans congreagte in the corner by the Fax fans after the game had ended?? - That is premeditated and demonstrates their readiness and willingness to cause trouble. IMO Its harder to actually walk away than strike back and I don't condone that either and I hope Fax fans involved are dealt with accordingly too but the sad reality is that this is not an isolated incident involving so called "Fev fans". Also isn't this the same plea "Get em Shopped" you are asking mate that we have been crying out for (for 9 months) after the Warrington incident? - I just hope someone has the guts to do what is right.
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| Chris, for the umpteenth time - the police have had names given to them re the warrington incident. That's a matter of public record. The police are fairly convinced who the perpetrators were on the back of repeatedly being given the same 2 names - but building a case without corroborative evidence that will convinct BEYOND ALL REASONABLE DOUBT, has proven difficult to the point where I now believe a conviction is unlikely.
Don't tell me people haven't shopped them - I know this to be abject cack!!!
Instead of bleatin on an internet forum - speak to the police. State your case - give them the info you know!!!!!
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| I decided not to post this before the match as emotions were running high as it was but for the Fev fans that feel there is no issue with their "supporters" or that it is not intimidating I would like to tell a short story through the eyes of a 9 year old girl and the effect Fev games have had on her with the sport we love.
2009 league game at home there was a man stood near the drummer (not wearing Fev colours though) looking really angry because his team had just gone behind so i smiled and said cheer up son. He tried to come round and hit me even though I had my child with me and luckily a fax fan saw what was happening and stopped him. My child was upset so we moved straight away and went in the seats when you could transfer.
2009 semi playoff - as a result my child asks for the only time that season if we could sit down for this game so that she "felt safe"
2010 - went away but she was teary throughout the game thinking something would happen especially when we changed ends
2010 final - had to convince my child to go to the final because it was Fev even though she goes home and away promising her there would be no trouble. We get evacuated as you know and she says why are the Fev fans acting like animals trying to get on the pitch to start trouble. She then hears that one of my friends has been punched after the game by a Fev fan who then just ran off (yes it was reported as part of the Dave Singer incident) and then sees Dave on the floor as we return and hears the news.
2011 home - she refuses to go to her first home game for 4 years without good reason only changing her mind when she hears that Fev fans are not allowed in our stand.
2011 away - says for the first time in 4 years she does not want to go to an away game and ask me also to not go as she fears for my safety which I agree to.
2011 semi - i agree not to go myself after she again pleads with me not to go as she fears for my safety so I agree and watch it on TV with her.
Just think this might put it in to perspective for some people on how this can effect the game we love.
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| and that helps in what way re last nights trouble.
Again, if you have info - get it passed to the police Jacko. Do something to root out this sheeite!
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| Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "There were more films/photographs taken last night of the violence I cannot believe there will be no evidence to support convictions for public order offences at the very least. I am aware people were handcuffed by the police and taken away. I am aware that prosecutions are likely.
The bones will be picked over when the dust has settled. There were so many factors from last night to consider and many to act upon - NOW!!
I am heartily fed up of sheeite like this. Last night was a right spectacle of rugby for the neutral and fax fans. We ought to be discussing that - not this sheeite.
I am seriously hacked off today - well down in the dumps - and NOT for the result either. I've seen Fev lose afoore and will do again. But this stuff sickens me.'"
The thing is Robin , the actual action by Fev [ club ] has probably backfired , we need integration , not segregation , when this draw was made I suggested that Fev and Fax should have got together and done all they could to guarantee a large following from Fax [ even what we did with Widnes and put on free transport ]
Only by totally outnumbering the probably dozen or so idiots that are bringing disrepute to the Featherstone Rovers name will they eventually get bored and stop attending , that along with a joint statement from both clubs stating that any violence , intimidation or general aggressive behaviour from ANY fans of any club will not be tolerated and will result in banning and prosecution
Back in 2004 there had been a little bother from a small number of HKR fans and the next game for them was at Leigh , their then CEO , Nick Halafii and my self met up outside Hilton park and basically just wandered round in club suits/blazers , pre match you could see that both sets of fans knew they were being watched , , Nick then watched the game stood with the Rovers fans , I did similar with ours , just the presence of a ' Suit ' can make a huge difference , this is what should have happened last night , 2/3 director/admin people stood on the terracing has more affect than any number of stewards , that and maybe a couple of police officers stood in the corner [ paid for if neccessary ] would have stopped any trouble
The only people who can stop this sort of behaviour is the fans themselves , it is ultimatly they who will suffer , in any group of troublemakers there will only be a small number of ' starters ' with usually 3/4 times as many followers , get rid of the starters and the followers will not continue , however the longer this goes on the more ' starters ' you end up with
It is a bloody shame as it was a cracking match and a superb advertisement for our competition
All the best
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| Quote: j a c k o "I decided not to post this before the match as emotions were running high as it was but for the Fev fans that feel there is no issue with their "supporters" or that it is not intimidating I would like to tell a short story through the eyes of a 9 year old girl and the effect Fev games have had on her with the sport we love.
2009 league game at home there was a man stood near the drummer (not wearing Fev colours though) looking really angry because his team had just gone behind so i smiled and said cheer up son. He tried to come round and hit me even though I had my child with me and luckily a fax fan saw what was happening and stopped him. My child was upset so we moved straight away and went in the seats when you could transfer.
2009 semi playoff - as a result my child asks for the only time that season if we could sit down for this game so that she "felt safe"
2010 - went away but she was teary throughout the game thinking something would happen especially when we changed ends
2010 final - had to convince my child to go to the final because it was Fev even though she goes home and away promising her there would be no trouble. We get evacuated as you know and she says why are the Fev fans acting like animals trying to get on the pitch to start trouble. She then hears that one of my friends has been punched after the game by a Fev fan who then just ran off (yes it was reported as part of the Dave Singer incident) and then sees Dave on the floor as we return and hears the news.
2011 home - she refuses to go to her first home game for 4 years without good reason only changing her mind when she hears that Fev fans are not allowed in our stand.
2011 away - says for the first time in 4 years she does not want to go to an away game and ask me also to not go as she fears for my safety which I agree to.
2011 semi - i agree not to go myself after she again pleads with me not to go as she fears for my safety so I agree and watch it on TV with her.
Just think this might put it in to perspective for some people on how this can effect the game we love.'"
Its like trying to s into the bleedin wind here, for the umpteenth time no fka is saying Fev havent a problem, but were telling you so have you, your the ones blind to the problem, i saw 2 gangs knocking 7 bells out of each other yesterday, both as bad as each other
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| The defeat I can take Steve. I watch Fev, it happens! What happened afterwards I can't. Dreadful do all round.
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| The Clubs board have sent out a clear message on the Clubs site re` after the Fev game clearly condemning any Halifax fans who entered the field of play at the end of the game or who were involved in violence even in retaliation.
Anyone identified with the violence will be banned from the club.
A clear message to all thankfully our board will show Featherstone how to react to bad behaviour at rugby matches.
I did not go last night as I have witnessed Fev fans on previous occasions and also know other clubs have had problems down there, however on reading Matt Callands call for everyone to go I nearly relented.I am so glad that reflecting on it we decided against as on the day we knew we would not get on a coach and we have a FAX number plate making our car a sitting duck. Plus having to rely on Fev to keep us safe did not seem a good option , how right we were .
I will never again enter that ground and if all opposing fans did that they would just be left with themselves to fight over. Anyone still deciding to go till it gets sorted out has every right to follow their team but at what cost.
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