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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: a.n Other "Ok Starbug, we get you don't think we have any chance of SL. That's your opinion. It may turn out to be correct, it might not. We shall see in July, one thing is for sure, our BOD don't think it's pointless. I am sure our bid will be as strong if not stronger than some teams in SL. What's to say the RFL will only kick out one team?'"


Nothing , but its highly unlikely , IMO of course , and yes your bid is stronger than some current SL clubs , then again Swinton could submit a bid stronger than some current SL clubs icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Faxhali "How the hell do you know what was most likely ?. Again just something plucked from the air, Crusaders were bottom until Nobby got them into the playoff position, all it might have taken is a small change in personnell. I don't know and you certainly dont. It appears very much to me that you like to make your mind up from guessing about things and you dont know how strong other clubs are really do you ?.

Do you have copies of the 16 clubs bids ?. are you party to the decision making ?. The there lies your answer, you are as clueless as the rest of us included Carney. Assumption is the mother of all Feck ups.'"


And they lost a fortune , and will continue to do so , yes you are correct things might have changed , and you might have been stronger and survived , like most things on here they are down to opinion , but those opinions are usually backed up by what has already happened , when you came down you lost a huge amount of support , when Cas came down , they didn't , their core support continued , albeit only for one season , and then again through another relegation and promotion

So you either have a large enough supporter base or a very rich benefactor ? , do you have either of these things ? , without one or the other , prefferably both as Widnes have , going back up to SL will not be fun

All the best , work to do

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Quote: Starbug "And they lost a fortune , and will continue to do so , yes you are correct things might have changed , and you might have been stronger and survived , like most things on here they are down to opinion , but those opinions are usually backed up by what has already happened , when you came down you lost a huge amount of support , when Cas came down , they didn't , their core support continued , albeit only for one season , and then again through another relegation and promotion

So you either have a large enough supporter base or a very rich benefactor ? , do you have either of these things ? , without one or the other , prefferably both as Widnes have , going back up to SL will not be fun

All the best , work to do'"


difficult to disagree with any of that !

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Quote: Starbug "And they lost a fortune , and will continue to do so , yes you are correct things might have changed , and you might have been stronger and survived , like most things on here they are down to opinion , but those opinions are usually backed up by what has already happened , when you came down you lost a huge amount of support , when Cas came down , they didn't , their core support continued , albeit only for one season , and then again through another relegation and promotion

So you either have a large enough supporter base or a very rich benefactor ? , do you have either of these things ? , without one or the other , prefferably both as Widnes have , going back up to SL will not be fun

All the best , work to do'"


Yes you continue to check those bids and let us know when you have figured out the strongest ones and how you come to those conclusions. Trot on. icon_evil.gif

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Quote: Starbug "

All the best , work to do'"


Now we know your lying icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Faxhali "Yes you continue to check those bids and let us know when you have figured out the strongest ones and how you come to those conclusions. Trot on.
Starbug is quite correct so why the criticism ? Cas maintained their crowds,even averaging over 5K in the relegation year - can't think of too many current Championship teams that would match that,can you ? Fax certainly haven't ! so why should they be treated differently from Leigh or Fev or whoever ?

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Quote: sanjunien "Starbug is quite correct so why the criticism ? Cas maintained their crowds,even averaging over 5K in the relegation year - can't think of too many current Championship teams that would match that,can you ? Fax certainly haven't ! so why should they be treated differently from Leigh or Fev or whoever ?'"


Sanjunien, you need to read more of Starbugs messages when it comes to SL bids, We have no chance this, no chance that, the RFL are mugging you about playing the game etc, Its both tiresome and boring now listening to the same thing on every thread, I am sure the Widnes boys on here will agree as not doubt they have had months of it on their bored.

The criticism is purely down to his obvious bitterness at the licensing system and the need to tell us his same opinion repeatedly for months on our board about how it was a waste of the BOD time. They have worked extremely hard over 3 years getting the stadium built by applying pressure on the council, doing what was needed on the field 2 years on the trot, getting the youth system sorted out, Making profit. Stuff like this www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=4744 giving us fans something to cheer about, Supporting our coach when most of us called for his head. Getting the 2500 average crowd etc etc. Then we have to suffer bouts of deja vouz reading his same old thing.

Now i am actually gonna go home for the weekend and practise my darts for the welsh open on sunday.
toodle pipps.
Quote: sanjunien "Starbug is quite correct so why the criticism ? Cas maintained their crowds,even averaging over 5K in the relegation year - can't think of too many current Championship teams that would match that,can you ? Fax certainly haven't ! so why should they be treated differently from Leigh or Fev or whoever ?'"


Sanjunien, you need to read more of Starbugs messages when it comes to SL bids, We have no chance this, no chance that, the RFL are mugging you about playing the game etc, Its both tiresome and boring now listening to the same thing on every thread, I am sure the Widnes boys on here will agree as not doubt they have had months of it on their bored.

The criticism is purely down to his obvious bitterness at the licensing system and the need to tell us his same opinion repeatedly for months on our board about how it was a waste of the BOD time. They have worked extremely hard over 3 years getting the stadium built by applying pressure on the council, doing what was needed on the field 2 years on the trot, getting the youth system sorted out, Making profit. Stuff like this www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=4744 giving us fans something to cheer about, Supporting our coach when most of us called for his head. Getting the 2500 average crowd etc etc. Then we have to suffer bouts of deja vouz reading his same old thing.

Now i am actually gonna go home for the weekend and practise my darts for the welsh open on sunday.
toodle pipps.


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Quote: Faxhali "Sanjunien, you need to read more of Starbugs messages when it comes to SL bids, We have no chance this, no chance that, the RFL are mugging you about playing the game etc, Its both tiresome and boring now listening to the same thing on every thread, I am sure the Widnes boys on here will agree as not doubt they have had months of it on their bored.

The criticism is purely down to his obvious bitterness at the licensing system and the need to tell us his same opinion repeatedly for months on our board about how it was a waste of the BOD time. They have worked extremely hard over 3 years getting the stadium built by applying pressure on the council, doing what was needed on the field 2 years on the trot, getting the youth system sorted out, Making profit. Stuff like this

good luck with the darts

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Quote: sanjunien "good luck with the darts'"


Thanks, Not quite left yet, Will need more than look though, Scott waites and Dean winstanley and the BDO big boys are there. No French players though.

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Quote: Faxhali "Thanks, Not quite left yet, Will need more than look though, Scott waites and Dean winstanley and the BDO big boys are there. No French players though.'"



nah,the french are rubbish at darts - probably something to do with the lack of ability to concentrate and practise,not to mention self-discipline to be a top player

the best ever exhibition game I ever saw was with the wonderful Leighton Rees and 'pretty useful' Alan Evans at a holiday camp near Great Yarmouth in the late 70s both passed away prematurely.I'm sure the third player present was Alan Glazier,probably the best left-hander ever to grace the oche ?
The Rees action was silky smooth,a bit like watching Michael Holding bowl........ a014.gif

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Just heard that the club are hosting an "evening with Brian Carney" in the Harvey's Restaurant. Tickets are priced £50. Price includes 3 course meal and a free lump hammer each. Brian Carney's headgear will be sponsored by Paper Maché UK Ltd.

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Quote: littlerich "Just heard that the club are hosting an "evening with Brian Carney" in the Harvey's Restaurant. Tickets are priced £50. Price includes 3 course meal and a free lump hammer each. Brian Carney's headgear will be sponsored by Paper Maché UK Ltd.'"


This i very much like icon_beat.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Not saying it is an easy thing to do , but the only guaranteed way of getting a SL place is via supporters numbers , it is that that has got Widnes back in , nothing else'"



So if widnes were still playing out of naughton park and had Vaughan we would still be in?

You dont half talk some poop bugman.

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So we have a certificate saying we are super League standard, we won the championship last season yet "No their not, no their not, their not in the running for it" icon_frustrated.gif a026.gif

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Quote: Forever Blue and white "So we have a certificate saying we are super League standard, we won the championship last season yet "No their not, no their not, their not in the running for it" Sky have no inluence at all over the decision. Look at what they did last time with the gradings etc, didnt mean a thing. Carney doesnt have any knowledge of whats in the bid (just like Starbug icon_wink.gif ) so what he says again doesnt mean anything. It's just his opinion.

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