ARE YOU LISTENING? Ben Black's dropped ball had nothing to do with Widnes being "promoted"

Totally disagree, Norman. Widnes were getting a franchise regardless of "what went on on the pitch". That's why I dispise them. And no way were there 3.5k there tonight. More like a grand.

I agree with Norman.

And me

Ditto

Tonight’s result is why the SL clubs want to jettison the qualifiers. The championship clubs are getting closer and closer and the SL clubs are worried. A vote any other way would be like turkeys voting for Christmas!

In the big scheme of things, the SL club’s attitude to the championship clubs, the Sky Sports commentary team lack of knowledge of the championship and the RFL not knowing what do about the championship is a blight on our sport.

We are seeing now 5 or 6 well run championship clubs bettering SL clubs now on smaller sky handouts, no tv exposure in their tv deal and less opportunity to advertise and the upper enchelons of the sport ridicule them!

Throughout licensing, the SL club’s got 18 million in funding and Fax and others got 300,000! Respect is deserved for the championship but the drawbridge will rise and money will be cut. If you can’t compete then shut them down. The qualifiers are a fantastic opportunity to keep competition going and refresh the sport every year

Freddie's wig. Great post, The fat controller would have been a worried jelly if he had not squirmed his way into another juicy job.

Yes still remember standing up thinking Blacky was bound to score only to see he had left the ball behind. Oh dear. He probably Is the one playerthat most of the memories are still brilliant though. It was his pace that really exited you.

It's all very well everyone agreeing with Norman, but they're all wrong. Widnes beating us in the Northern Rail semi following Ben's hot potato experience was in 2009 and Widnes got that outrageous franchise in 2012. Widnes had already won the Northern Rail Cup in 2007 so, as I say, that semi win against us had nothing to do with their franchise success. We also bid for the franchise, enabled by that marvellous last attendance versus Batley of nearly 5,000 which put our required average to 2,500. I remember it well

Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship

I also noticed that. Terry mentioned the full time difference and I thought someone would correct him in his ear piece, but he said it again later

With no Championship coverage on SKY, this lot really did think London were cannon fodder but their ball handling was superior. Widnes had the bigger forwards but they looked shot at the end. Toulouse will give the Whinos a game tomorrow as well, mark my words. Am I right? I'm not wrong!

Not surprised the two oafs weren't up to speed,Clarke can't see further than his super league snout but if Carney is going to front it he should do his research.

Widnes were dire - a lot of large lumpish full time professionals - no pride in their shirt - and little skill - they were lucky it wasn't a bigger defeat. I expect them to be far more physical in their remaining matches - its the only way Catalans survived last year.