Alex Sutcliffe to Doncaster according to Matthew Shaw - disappointed with that as he looked good when playing second row and would certainly have preferred him to retaining llaroyer.

As things stand we do not have any real competition for Kav and Gee in the second row so i thought we might have gone for him. Maybe we did and he chose Donny instead or they might be able to guarantee him a starting spot every week.

Didn't see his appearance in Toulouse where he was excellent by all accounts.Did nothing to impress me in the games I saw-looked much like the rest of our pack-even his try at Keighley would have ended up on the ground 9 times out of 10.

Agree with this, the pack (including Sutcliffe) the last few games (bar Toulouse) really let Fax down with only Tangata really standing out.

Tangata standing out? Not sure which games you have been watching, think its been Tangata's worst season in a Fax shirt. His dumb penalty against Bradford cost us the playoffs.

Tangata upped his game after the Bradford game ,larroyer didnt . Oakley and Forster have left , Maher as been a disappointing signing, kav is 35 and gee has shown some defensive frailty all be it on the back of some poor discipline from his teammates. Calcott , Douglas, lannon and perhaps an inform Murray are something to build on . This area specifically is where I’m focused on , no disrespect to some loyal players but if they are retained and the pack remains similar then the appointment off Finn is a sideways move .

I'd keep Matty Gee definitely.

Agree almost completely- think Gee was carrying an injury which affected last part if his season, would hope he'll be back to his best by next season. Maher is unfortunately an expensive mistake who shouldn't play a part next year - slightly worrying that Finn gave him game time at Dewsbury- hoping he was just doing his future employers a favour by covering at least part of his wage. Kavanagh should be better if he gets a full season with Keyes, although wouldn't have been surprised had he been released - Larroyer has been a good servant to Fax but unfortunately can't be retained if the pack is going to get a much needed revamp.

Can't recall the last prop we had who made real, proper yards? Anybody?

I remember the last who used to break tackles.

To be fair it did used to be Tangata then Calahane as well but it is a while since we have had what you could describe as an explosive forward. I think unfortunatley most of the business had already been done before Finn's appointment and will no doubt include a lot of retentions so I am not expecting a lot of changes. As mentioned before rather than pursuing Widdop that money would be better spent on 2 or 3 good forwards as we have been rolled too easily this season.

Probably Luke Ambler

Last proper forward we had was Sam Barlow,he had it all except the right attitude..

I know what I saw and imo Tangata and Lannon were our best forwards "the last few games". Can't really cherry pick his penalty "cost us the play offs" either, as there have been several close calls throughout the season .... Joufrett's last minute drop goal at Keighley and London not getting a nailed on penalty try at the Shay, for example, more than balances out the Tangata brain fart.

The thing that worries me the most regarding the pack for next season. Was Finn comments in the article about Douglas joining when he said that Douglas was joining an already formidable pack. Formidable, he must of been watching a different set of players than me last season.

A very strange comment,particularly as he witnessed the last few games...