So, last night it was an attack from behind. Now we've seen the footage, it does look late and high, but clearly from the front and where the charge of using the shoulder comes from I'm not sure. Sam obviously caught something in the face/head that knocked him out, but it certainly didn't look like a shoulder.

Dane will no doubt be found guilty and serve a ban, and maybe a lengthy one, but I think more for the "afters" than the initial collision with Sam.

As an RL fan, I'm really happy that Sam seems to be Ok.

On reflecting overall, I think his coach deserves the ban more than Dane, and with instructions to play a proper game of rugby league would maybe have turned Leigh over last night. They started off on fire and we couldn't contain them, but a more sensible approach (and maybe Jono on from the start and Murrell fit to play) would have been more fruitful.

Might not of been from behind but I think the intent was there though. Either way,it was bad!

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What did Sam say to the Halifax bench when he was substituted?
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Quote from another thread from a Leigh fan last night (before we'd seen the footage) was "That incident started when Barlow was taken late of the ball from behind."

The supporter in question clearly hadn't seen the incident at all (was he even at the game?) as there is no way in a million years it could be said that the challenge was "from behind".

As to intent etc., that's up to the RFL to decide.

It was me who stated that. I was there and at the time I initially thought it was. Having had the chance to see it numerous times since on video, it clearly wasn't so apologies for that. It wasn't a case of misleading anyone it was a genuine error.

alifax, please don't mention my name when you don't know me or Charlie.
Charlie says what he wants to and I respect that, take a look at what you posted "at least peawwap has the balls to just come out with it?"
He called us the scum of the earth!
Charlie has given his opinion, I may or may not agree with it but I respect it.

Will you go back to that thread and retract it?
No, don't think so.

Yes

Perhaps better not to post it in the first place!

Yes, it's really easy ("View your posts" would be a start), but the point is that you provoked a situation by stating that it was from behind. The facts prove otherwise. That's what's happens on the pitch sometimes - someone provokes a situation and others react.

Dane comes over maybe as a bit of a "hot head" (others would say passionate), but that applies to a lot of sportsmen where physical contact is the name of the game. I don't know him personally, so I can only say what I see - and that's that he's totally committed to the Fax club and team.

None of us (in the stands) know what he was thinking or what provocation before, or during, the game had gone on.

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Thanks for the advice, post now edited. I apologise it was never my intention to mislead or provoke anything, I said what I believed to be true. Anyway I hope we can all move on. None of us can change what happened, it's in the hands of the rfl disciplinary panel who have already outlined the charges. Let's hope also that what your coach said after the game about meeting in the grand final happens because it would be another cracking game for both sets of fans, let's just hope for a little less controversy though

So is it Ok if Dane says that he made a mistake, but he's entitled to correct it by saying "sorry" for the punches he threw (I'll leave the initial challenge up to the RFL), and hence no further action?

Clearly not, but read what you've just written, and apply that to RL players on the pitch in the middle of what's always an attritional and physically confrontational sport.