Reaching the 2,500 figure.

unless you are called Quins or Crusaders that is ?

Which we have established isn't enough to even contemplate going into SL with , did it help the Celtic Crusaders when they kept fiddling the attendances ?

So if you do that , all you are doing is ' kidding ' yourself , and then reality bites , the extra 1,500 fans you have are the reason you will be in SL next year , fortunatly you have retained enough core support for long enough to get back in , it has been dropping off as the years go by

It is a different scenario for them , without the SKY money , they dont exist , simple as

Damn I wasn't expecting to agree with you on this one. But for a change your spot on with that post

yes,of course

Ok Starbug, we get you don't think we have any chance of SL. That's your opinion. It may turn out to be correct, it might not. We shall see in July, one thing is for sure, our BOD don't think it's pointless. I am sure our bid will be as strong if not stronger than some teams in SL. What's to say the RFL will only kick out one team?

How the hell do you know what was most likely ?. Again just something plucked from the air, Crusaders were bottom until Nobby got them into the playoff position, all it might have taken is a small change in personnell. I don't know and you certainly dont. It appears very much to me that you like to make your mind up from guessing about things and you dont know how strong other clubs are really do you ?.

Do you have copies of the 16 clubs bids ?. are you party to the decision making ?. The there lies your answer, you are as clueless as the rest of us included Carney. Assumption is the mother of all Feck ups.

Nothing , but its highly unlikely , IMO of course , and yes your bid is stronger than some current SL clubs , then again Swinton could submit a bid stronger than some current SL clubs

And they lost a fortune , and will continue to do so , yes you are correct things might have changed , and you might have been stronger and survived , like most things on here they are down to opinion , but those opinions are usually backed up by what has already happened , when you came down you lost a huge amount of support , when Cas came down , they didn't , their core support continued , albeit only for one season , and then again through another relegation and promotion

So you either have a large enough supporter base or a very rich benefactor ? , do you have either of these things ? , without one or the other , prefferably both as Widnes have , going back up to SL will not be fun

All the best , work to do

difficult to disagree with any of that !

Yes you continue to check those bids and let us know when you have figured out the strongest ones and how you come to those conclusions. Trot on.

Now we know your lying