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| Quote: chris_smith "Read both threads concerning Calland and the performance today and the silence from the "Calland In" crowd is deafening. Todays performance is a culmination of poor coaching, discipline and organisation that in my opinion has been on-going for some time. Personally for me Calland should have gone before last season got underway after his "incident" in Halifax. The Grand Final merely served as a superb smoke screen and papered over a number of cracks that were starting to appear in Callands coaching ability. When it truly mattered last season in the "major" games we blew it and I have always bemoaned Callands ability to really get any of his teams highly charged and passionate. Today was a prime example. Champagne corks freshly popped on a new era for the Town, club and stadium and what happens? - The worst performance in many years.
Millward played superb mind games during the week complimenting our speed out wide, whilst plotting to batter us up the middle, in fact they battered us in every department and as many previous posters have mentioned a large majority of their team were well beaten by us less than 12 months ago. What a difference a coach makes!! - I thought Leigh were SUPERB today and played how I want every Fax side to play . . . . . . For each other. They were led well by Paul around the park and played good, hard, basic rugby and looked to offload at the right time but were patient and built momentum.
Calland must (hell as got to) go but I am not sure the BOD are strong enough to make such a decision. As much as I was berated for mentioning on here a players comments made to our group last week (just how true were those supposed flippant comments?)........As I have always said where HRLFC and rumours are concerned there is normally some truth, no smoke without fire and all that. Halifax actually look like a side who don't train or know each other saying that and players sound like rats wanting to desert a sinking ship if the other rumours have any element of truth to them.
I take no pleasure in seeing my team play like that but sacking Calland is no "knee-jerk" reaction it is a decision that needs making for the good of the club moving forward and damn quick before the season is over before it has got going. We need fresh impetus with a whole new back room setup and I personally would bring in someone with no links to the club. We've appointed on sentiment before with TA and I'm not sure Rhino is the answer right now.'"
They only "battered us up the middle" as you put it because we kept gifting them the ball to be able to do it !
We missed Wrenchy who was obviously injured for his second spell, he's tackled everything this season. Maloney was the only other forward who gave it to Leigh's forwards regularly, the players as a group/team were awful, see it as me being one of the "Calland-in" brigade if you like, but I am absolutely convinced that he doesn't ask them to pass the ball to the ground, behind the target, over the target's head, some players are taking the rise out of the paying customer and many of them should be ashamed of their two recent performances. THEY are the ones who effect what happens on the field of play, we all know that.
I got invited for a drink after the game with a very old playing colleague of mine Nigel Wood and I was so embarrassed I made my excuses and left the stadium at the final hooter, why should I feel like that ?
BECAUSE I CARE about my team and I am totally embarrassed that our "big day" was yet another one to forget. Mr Wood was very impressed with our new surroundings by the way.
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| Quote: marillion man "They only "battered us up the middle" as you put it because we kept gifting them the ball to be able to do it !
We missed Wrenchy who was obviously injured for his second spell, he's tackled everything this season. Maloney was the only other forward who gave it to Leigh's forwards regularly, the players as a group/team were awful, see it as me being one of the "Calland-in" brigade if you like, but I am absolutely convinced that he doesn't ask them to pass the ball to the ground, behind the target, over the target's head, some players are taking the rise out of the paying customer and many of them should be ashamed of their two recent performances. THEY are the ones who effect what happens on the field of play, we all know that.
I got invited for a drink after the game with a very old playing colleague of mine Nigel Wood and I was so embarrassed I made my excuses and left the stadium at the final hooter, why should I feel like that ?
BECAUSE I CARE about my team and I am totally embarrassed that our "big day" was yet another one to forget. Mr Wood was very impressed with our new surroundings by the way.'"
could not agree more, my sentiments exactly.
some of, sorry most of the passing today was bad.
as was a lot of the tackling/ball handling in general.
that is down to the players.
although as pointed out earlier, why was penky at 6 when everyone knows he is best at 9.
it did not work last year and wont this year.
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| its now nearly 10 am on monday and no story from courier about the match why ? do they know something and cant say or are they waiting for an official announcment from the club or am i just being "optimistic" ?
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| Quote: Diggerslad "its now nearly 10 am on monday and no story from courier?'"
you will find it will be mid afternoon before they put anything on there, for some reason they dont update it till then for the fax stories, they used to do it about 8.30 every morning,
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| Quote: Diggerslad "its now nearly 10 am on monday and no story from courier about the match why ? do they know something and cant say or are they waiting for an official announcment from the club or am i just being "optimistic" ?'"
of late have noticed the courier puts todays news on later than usual, maybe aimed at getting people to buy the paper instead of reading for free online. the times are about to start charging for online users due to this.
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| The defeat yesterday might be little to do with the quality of the opposition. I found the following in an old book published in the 1930's called The Story of Old Halifax by a man called T.W. Hanson. The section is entitled 'The Shay Curse'. Interestingly, subsequent reprints of the this book have omitted this information.
[iAfter Shay Hall was demolished in 1903 (in order to build Skircoat Road), the Shay site was taken over by the Halifax Corporation and used primarily as a rubbish tip. Just before the outbreak of The Great War, a group of Romany travellers set up camp there and, despite the protestations of nearby residents on newly built Heath Park Avenue and Heath Hall, refused to leave. In an attempt to help the war effort as well as to encourage the itinerants to move on, the site was partitioned and one side was used by the Territorial Army for shooting practice. Unfortunately, a stray bullet killed one of the traveller's horses. Shortly after this incident the gypsies promptly left and sought pastures new. Before departing, however, the horse's owner, an elderly lady called Vadoma, put a one hundred year curse on the land bringing bad luck to anyone who 'owned or occupied this land'. According to gypsy folklore, the only way the curse can be lifted is if 'a horse and a fox are made to perfom an act of union before an audience'. The Romany travellers were never seen again.[/i
I'm guessing she doesn't mean rugby union!
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "Interesting....100 year old curse starting around 1903. How did we do in 2003?
2013 here we come!!!!
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| Hope the Branighan and the other lads are fit for friday or we are gonna be annihilated at Fev on friday that's for certain......... We lose the ball on the first tackle, we let the opposition run at us instead of getting up and tackling, kicking was abysmal, not even making 10 yards from the KO, we hardly got over in to Leigh's half of the field a total shambles. First time I have walked out of a game but couldn't stay and watch any more of that yesterday total embarrassment
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| Quote: Bob Suter "The defeat yesterday might be little to do with the quality of the opposition. I found the following in an old book published in the 1930's called The Story of Old Halifax by a man called T.W. Hanson. The section is entitled 'The Shay Curse'. Interestingly, subsequent reprints of the this book have omitted this information.
[iAfter Shay Hall was demolished in 1903 (in order to build Skircoat Road), the Shay site was taken over by the Halifax Corporation and used primarily as a rubbish tip. Just before the outbreak of The Great War, a group of Romany travellers set up camp there and, despite the protestations of nearby residents on newly built Heath Park Avenue and Heath Hall, refused to leave. In an attempt to help the war effort as well as to encourage the itinerants to move on, the site was partitioned and one side was used by the Territorial Army for shooting practice. Unfortunately, a stray bullet killed one of the traveller's horses. Shortly after this incident the gypsies promptly left and sought pastures new. Before departing, however, the horse's owner, an elderly lady called Vadoma, put a one hundred year curse on the land bringing bad luck to anyone who 'owned or occupied this land'. According to gypsy folklore, the only way the curse can be lifted is if 'a horse and a fox are made to perfom an act of union before an audience'. The Romany travellers were never seen again.[/i
I'm guessing she doesn't mean rugby union!'"
Have to admit thats better than blaming the ref, or saying you had a bad day
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| Well I managed to persuade a couple of my chums to come yesterday, and I can guarantee they won't be coming back in a hurry. It's only the second time I've ever left a game early, something needs to be done, and quickly. You'd of thought losing to Hunslet would have been a big wake up call.
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| Quote: DemonUK "Have to admit thats better than blaming the ref, or saying you had a bad day
actually thought the ref had a good game yesterday, did not miss much really.
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| Quote: raf rapper "What a difference 9 months make. I was on the end of some proper hardcore stick at 'Fax last year prior to a fantastic comeback by Leigh, then there was still some arrogant comments from your 'so-called' fans as you won the game !
I look forward to our league encounters this year and hope they are both televised.You have a good team on paper but can they cope under pressure? Time will tell.
Plenty Leigh Fans at your place today, hope you bring as many to the LSV !!!'"
Wasn't that a league encounter yesterday then?
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| Quote: Trustafox "I'm glad someone pointed this out. One from the Alanis Morisette school of irony that was.
As for the Champ 1 comment, bit cheeky, but fair. ]Might want to keep quiet on the subject of relegation to champ 1 if this form continues though![/b]'"
Obviously you gauys are watching 'Fax every week, so I accept you know what's going on. However, we (deservedly) lost at York in the NRC, and the prospects didn't look good. Then we hammered Fev and their fans were talking relegation. (for them) Now look at them - apparently unbeatable!
So, keep the faith. When your injuries clear up, and the confidence comes back, you will still be the team to beat - along with us, hopefully!
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| noticed on the picture in courier that black has written on his wrist of what he had to do during game.. push,run to line etc.
cant he remember to do that or was his mind on injury.
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