How can anybody know who will go well next season when not all the signed up players have been announced yet at most clubs????

That's betting for you. You make your bet based on the information you have at the time.

If you want more information, you can wait, but the price may not be so good.

Pin these odds on the dressing room wall.

Might tempt the players to do something that's banned though?

The Warrior agrees, helps keep him up to date.

Though seriously this will do RM's first team speech for him.

I suppose also that the bookies might reflect on our 10 match unbeaten run and come to the view that we won't repeat that. Other clubs (Dewsbury etc... seem to be recruiting in numbers) might appear stronger than last year and all that adds up to a lower ranking.

My only reservation in that theory is Fev. They've taken a hit on finances by not finishing 4th. They've let their squad go and still in early stages of recruitment and they are PT. Why have them the highest ranked PT club?

Maybe they know who we have signed but not yet announced.

btw watch this space with Bradford, could be in trouble again next season. and wont retain their squad, already offered players massively reduced contracts due to not going up

Joke odds.I would say Leigh 6/4 Fax 10/1 would be about right.

Odds differ from Town to Town these odds could be from Corals in Leigh for all we know,Charlie himself might have given them,am I worried?Not a chance I have faith in Richard and the lads 2/9 are crazy odds without a ball being kicked I've heard Bradford are having internal problems anything can happen at Leigh,King Degsy might abdicate London are an unknown quantity, Dews could make a run, Fev I can't see owt happening there,40/1 on Fax is great value,remember Rangi isn't certain to be at Leigh, I've heard a rumour about Barlow and Riddy making the trip to Yorkshire,you never know.Charlie thinks Fax will finish 4th what say you halifaxjohn?What does our resident Jester Litlerich think?

I think we'll finish in top four BUT I hope we have a financial plan for if we don't. £787k to £150k is a hell of a drop. Wish we could have just kept going and not have an off season because we were on fire those last three months. If we can start well then I think we will be competing for fourth/third.

Behind Fev and Leigh

I think Leigh will be there at the top obviously, with Bradford. Not sure about Fev. Lost all their players. Signed a good one. Signed a cast off. Poor coach. I think they'll struggle.

Sheffield will start slow as usual. London? Who knows? May surprise a few this year.

The odds are pointless once you take Bradford and leigh out of the equation. The only real value there is on Bradford and with Lowes having another off season to inflict his coaching on the players they have it seems unlikely they will beat Leigh to top spot. The rest have been plucked out of thin air, you only have to look at Batley tipped to finish bottom to see that. For me they have recruited pretty well this year, certainly a lot better than last year, and I think they can get in the cluster that will be London, Sheffield, Dewsbury and Fev fighting for 4th place. Obviously on Fax from that I think we will finish 3rd and I think we will be closer to the top 2 than most think. The players now know the levels expected of them and now believe they are capable of hitting those levels, it took 4 months of the season for that to happen and I dont think it will take the same next season. We have a really settled squad and will benefit from the fact that Fev and Sheffield are putting together new teams.

I reckon London will improve but still wont be anywhere near good enough to make the top 3. Sheffield we just dont know and so far their signings have been less than inspiring. Fev will also have a new look team and although they will have two decent half backs this year they will be playing behind a pretty poor pack again and will have to contend with the handicap that is Jon Sharps coaching. They will have a new coach by the end of the season. Dewsbury have lost a few players as well and Im not sure they have recruited that well and I think they could struggle this year. As I said before I think the big improvers could be Batley and they could shock a few by finishing above Fev and Dewsbury.

Lol, you just make stuff up, if Batley finish above Fev and Dews they will be above Fax too. Love it when someone makes a post without knowing owt. I think Dewsbury have recruited well. Please name this poor pack Fev will have next season.

If Fax are reliant on what they have plus their signings so far they will struggle to make the top 4. It's still only October and We have recruited well so far and so have Dewsbury.

Last season Fax took advantage of a poor league and poor end of season form of Leigh who not only Fax beat in the middle eights. Next season will be different and you'll be back down to your usual 5th or 6th