'Haven scored the most fluckiest try from a long kick off.
They're the best resart, especially when your fired up.

short kicks for panic points or if your pack is getting creamed.
Anyway they will expect them now so definately go long now.

Agree totally. I cant understand why we have gone away from this tactic when it works so well. Think we got to every short kick off barring 1 yesterday and it was only he fact that other players wernt alert that we didnt come up with the ball more. Even the one where Haven took it cleanly they still ended up where they would of if we had kicked it deep due to the pressure from the Fax defenders.

If it aint broke.........

I also like the short kick off, didnt our come back yesterday start from a short kick off?

Our first try of the game came from a short kick off. The only time you went long you got the ball back and the other one hit the post.

Take the kick off from the start of the game. We get the ball on our own 40 rather than ingoal. Edmondson busts a tackle we're now on your 30, put an attacking kick in and force a drop out. Score from the next set. If you'd kicked the ball long, we'd have went 5 drives and a long kick. The first try of the game could've made a big difference. It's not really about using the short kick off it's about using it at the correct time and possibly giving the opposition a little bit more respect.

Right, I feel I am able to talk about it now. WE WERE CR-P.

In our record breaking relegation year we were cr@p and we knew we were. This year we are good and we know it, but at the moment we're playing cr@p. So annoying.

Beat Toulouse convincingly...beat Fev first half....Lost to Fev 2nd half....Lost to Widnes...Lost to Haven first half...Beat Haven 2nd half....Beat Sheffield convincingly....Season back on track!!! Well that's my prediction anyway!!! COME ON FAX...Still best season in a long time,we are building nicely,keep the faith!!

seems like our team did a good job on shutting you down yesterday only to fade a bit in the last 15 mins, edmo, jt, and leroy smashing everything in sight, and calvert running them in for fun

were on a roll to the GF now

But you did not

Repeating myself here but two words:

STAND OFF.

Too late now but you have to question MC's thinking considering he was a back. Maybe he had a bad experience with a stand-off who wouldn't pass to him and has made it his ambition to try not to use them in his teams?

unfortrunately I missed the game due to work, sounds like penky had a poor game, I cant help but feeling he has become a little complacent with being her so long, really disappointing result but at least widnes lost.

I'll give you credit and especially to the fans that made the journey down, more in hope than expectation (thats the impression i got from the ones i spoke too). I wish we cold play simple rugby at times. All the teams that have beaten us haven't had to do anything outstanding to do so. Were either brilliant or awful, no middle ground whatsoever.

Were a soft touch in defence and very very rarely build any pressure,repeat sets etc.