This is a rebuild job. It will be moneyball style of underrated value and building decent player value proposition to get them to come. I look at what Coleman has done at Widnes this year. I think Kear's time has gone maybe. Bit of a relic to the ghosts of coaching past.

Just another mess and bad timing if true and there’s not another trap door waiting to fall through with any new coach being tied to a shoestring budget, who we retain from what we have now and the new rumoured incomings that Finn was going to bring in.

Definately..same sh!!t different year but still have a team to support(or criticise..! ).

My thinking behind Kear is that we can forget being competitive with the top for the next couple of years whilst this mess and the Shay are sorted out so it's a case of trying to stay up (assuming we don't get relegated this season) and I think Kear can achieve that the cheapest.

Have always been a fan but probably passed sell by date now.I said Kyle Amor before a ball was kicked this season and I stick by that now-after what we've witnessed last few years it has to be a specialist forward IMO.

Matt Shaw in this weeks podcast has a bit to say about the current situation and on the Finn rumours he says he’s been asked about it a few times but doesn’t know enough about it to say either way.

Ive always been a fan of Alan Kilshaw at least upuntil someone snitched on his dressing room antics.

The fact is that at the moment Swinton is probably a better draw than us with everything going on but its all going to depend on the relegation situation.

James Webster did a good job at Fev a few seasons back i think he left because he didn't want to go full time if they got into super league plus they lost that seasons grand final to Toulouse.

Thin rumour I heard was a murrell widdop combo .

Don't believe it as neither of them are thin.

Any chance of Simon Grix returning? Not working out well for him at Hull (he's probably told a few players they're lazy in training so they've got the hump!).

Just out of interest when was the last time fax appointed a coach who didn’t have a connection to fax ?

There’s more chance of you stopping talking out of your booty.
Which is less than zero.

2008 I reckon.

Calland wouldn't it be - Then we had the run of Harrison, Marshall, Grix & Finn