Yes you are right...... I stand corrected pal. Although my sentiment still remains the same. He was something of a gamble as at the time nobody in RL was going anywhere near him and he had a point to prove..........Fev reaped that benefit and so did Powell.

Forward pass to Murrell?

aye

Mmm?

It's been done to death but it wisdom after the event again.

How many clubs have appointed people as coaches even proven ones and it's gone wrong.

Fev for one with Bastion so that's one that has and one that hasn't with the club quoted has an example of where it's worked!!!

Fax have appointed several where it hasn't worked.

Even to gamble you have to have the money to do it and Fax haven't got it.

Charlie please leave us alone I know you are trying to cheer us up but the fact is our club is in decline and we will NOT get that 2nd spot, no way.
Go and enjoy your own clubs terrific season which I think will be unbeaten all season in this league.

Like your optimism but its misguided I am afraid, blind loyalty does not work in the long term.
The results are part of the problem, the other part is the way we play its poor we don't have any clue its predictable and its this which is losing us games as teams are picking us off.
Surely the Board have not given Karl another 3 years, surely not??????

Suit yourself mate , im not trying to cheer you up , or Patronise you , its not my Style , im saying it as I see it , you still have a decent squad of players , including Peter Fox , and 2nd spot is achievable providing you start winning ,and remember Fev have to travel to the Shay yet .

2nd spot IS still achievable but we just can't see a sudden upswing of commitment on the horizon. However, the annoying thing to me is that we could have won every game we've played this season! We have been shown what the team is capable of but not for 80 minutes per game and that failure to maintain pressure is caused by a coaching team with the inability to motivate.

As a Keighley fan, I've been more than impressed with Paul Handforth since he came from Halifax to Keighley in the close season. We seem to be winning many of the types of game we would have lost last season, and to me, Handforth's organisation and playmaking seems to be central to it all. He seems to bring the best out of the players around him.

I may be way off the mark, but I've kept wondering whether the loss of Handforth may have impacted your form at all this season to date? What are your thoughts out of interest?

Looking forward to next Sunday by the way, hope you bring a good following as you usually do, it should be a good game.

And his half back partner from last season (Thacks) is going great for Dewsbury.
Read into this what you like..

Yes, I do recall 'Thacks' being a handful against Keighley recently.

I remember Handforth and Thacks getting a right battering all the time they were here

As an outsider who only gets to see Fax once or twice a season, if that ,you may think i would not have a valid opinion but seeing things from a distance gives me a perspective perhaps some of you lack.
Its stating the obvious but there has been a clear decline in the last 5 years both in results, quality/entertainment of play and then crowds. A common theme to this is that KH has presided as coach in this period.
You have to say he has not even managed to keep us in the the top 2 strongest positions from any way you look at it, in fact we are now performing at mid table levels.
The crowds will come back but only with results combined with entertainment, bore the pants off people and you lose them. As far as off field stuff goes we are 3 years behind clubs such as Leigh/Featherstone, we are doing stuff now they did 3 or 4 years ago difference is the team is no longer performing.
You can blame it on money all you like but we did not have much 8 years ago yet still looked the most likely to join super league.
At the moment thats a million miles away, i wonder if the powers that be realise this and secretly know we could not sustain it so don't feel pressured to replace a colourless clueless coach.
Because if want on field success we have the wrong man in charge and the longer it goes on the more difficult it will be for a new coach to recover from.
He needs to go, now.
Save our club, now.

Xfan - much if that is incorrect.
Last five years has seen us win GF and Northern Rail.
KH only coached the NRC winning team.
Our crowds started declining when we were entertaining and expansive.

Nice effort though, for an ex fan.