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wot he said!

For what it's worth I don't think there was any lack of effort - don't think that has been an issue throughout our "lean spell"

Sheffield showed the rest of the league how to beat us in May and since then every team except Leigh, Donny and Toulouse has done just that. It isn't hard - complete your sets and control the ruck and you will deny Fax any space to get moving - simples!

Our play is too predictable and easy to read and our defence is just a shambles. Tonight we couldn't get our line right and the markers were constantly caught short wich allowed Barrow the space to play the ball quickly and make quick ground. Their attack near our line was fast and fluid in contrast to ours which was slow and unimaginative.

We play "off the cuff" but the problem is that the players don't know what their job is from one week to the next. God knows what they do in training but it isn't structured to any end result.

Losing to a better side isn't the issue for me - that goes with being a Fax fan.

The manner of the defeat and the fact that we have learned nothing at all in the last two months does. Does anyone really think it will suddenly all be alright next week and even if it is can you see us improving enough to beat Barrow in the final? Yes, Barrow are a good side.....one that we have beaten three times this season but we were nowhere near them tonight. Our coaching staff had no idea how to change things after plan A failed.

Six defeats in eight over a season would give us a maximum of 8 wins which would get us relegated - don't assume it couldn't happen - ask Leigh.

If we have Super League aspirations then there is no room for sentiment. We have made no progress this year - finishing one place higher when two teams have moved up and failing to reach a final is not progress.

We all want to beat whoever next week but with no game plan, a coach who isn't up to the big games, the wrong players on the pitch and a complete confidence breakdown it's highly unlikely to say the least

I hope I am proved wrong and I will be there doing my bit next week but when a team with as much quallity as ours is peforming so badly week in week out then someone has to take responsibility.

Quality post. Dont worry you will get used to that banging your head on a brick wall feeling posing on here.

You should work for the club in the marketing department. If you dont like it you can FO. Although for a second i thought your message was to the players and coaching staff.
Wake up and smell the coffee and get behind the team when the new season begins next Febuary.

Spot on, remember about 500 Fax fans made a wasted trip tonight as we were totally embarrassed.

so what game was u watching, gleeson 20 mins, dont think so, he played most the match

I think i watched a different game to some people last night and yes i was at the game before people start saying were you there or some other rubbish.

We were beaten by the better team end of, whatever game plan we had, we wouldn't have beaten Barrow tonight. They are a class act now, hence why they finished top. We were in that game for 60 minutes and if a few things had gone our way...such as a certain Barrow player being sin binned things may have been different. i don't think the bounce of the ball went our way either....that Larder pass came at an unlucky time when i think we were just starting to settle into the game. If this game had come after a good run of wins people wouldn't be so critical.

However I don't think Barrow are unbeatable and IF we can win next week i think we will go into the final with a bit more cinfidence that we are obviously still lacking a little.

You would also think that people wouldn't start all this before another big game next week, sorry but theres only one more week some of you negative folk have to wait before you can start your full moaning so why not wait until then, whatever you think of the coach most of you seem to keep saying the players are good enough so how about getting behind our club for the next 7 days? I'm sure thats what they would like to see on here today...this kind of stuff is hardly gonig to encourage players like Shad Royston to stay is it??

We weren't out enthused last night, being at the game is a totally different perspective to watching it on V...so maybe i will changemy mind when i watch it back, but you could tell they wanted it and were gutted at the end, so lets support them, and stop all this because for anyone who has forgotten we still have the chance of having the best season ever, and from my perspective I want to thank the club for that.

well siad FAX FAN.seeing it live is completely different, i am not knocking their commitment and effort , watching Watene , Maloney , Said taking the ball in hard etc - there was no lack of commitment there.We were just 9 pts adrift with 30 to go ; they got a try , our heads dropped and that was that.Big wrap to Barrow - they played the better stuff , ran well , tackled hard and were the better team - no argument there.
Govin must play at 6 next week , Penky must be at 9 AND James back in the front row.Dam iam late for work , plenty more to say about ,knackered , car travelled in broke down , got back about 3am.
Never mind !

You say well said then have a go at team selection? Your saying what everyone apart from the coach realises. Govin has being quality at 6 when he has played at the back end of the season. Penky is and always will be one of the best hookers in this league yet our leader insists on playing him at 6. As for James im not sure why they decided to get peoples hopes up. There was no chance of him playing a week after getting pot off.
Big Frank was a liability again. He started the season like a house on fire yet has finished it like a damp squid. Im not a Dana Wilson fan but he would do a lot better job for us than Frank did in his 20 minutes.

I accept you was there, but can I ask if you were drunk.

I was there also and I saw a flat team, who didnt seem enthused at all. Okay I dont say there was a lack of effort, but there was certainly a lack of tackling....

Yes Barrow deserved the win 100% they outplayed us in every single position, bar none.

And YES there is another week to go, but the day cost people a great deal of money and they HAVE a right to moan about the product that was given to them for their hard earned cash.

I will be there next week and I will be 100% behind the team and win or loose it has been a good, entertaining season, but dont have a go at people for venting their feelings.

Dana Wilson did ok when he played against Leigh then was dropped for an injured Frank the week after

I dont get how people are still so defensive, how many more pancake performances need serving up before you call for his head? 3? 4?

Personally id give him one more cance, if we are ripped apart by fev or widnes at the shay i'd be glad to see a change