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| Some people appear to be completely delusional, where exactly would money come from for a stadium? Even if we had it, it would be better used building a training facility and going full-time.
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "Some people appear to be completely delusional, where exactly would money come from for a stadium? Even if we had it, it would be better used building a training facility and going full-time.'"
Same places that other sporting teams that build new stadiums get their money from. Its probably highly unlikely and a bit of a pipe dream but the best case alternative of both our towns main teams owning/running our current stadium together and making money off it is just as unlikely even though the obstacles are a lot less. Until their stuborn chairman leaves though its never happening.
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| Grix.
Go NOW.
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| Hard to ever recall a worse halifax performance than today. I cant honestly remember a worse one. We could have played for another 2 hours and not scored . First half when we had a chance squandered with stupid attempts to get it wo Walmsley . Manning showed exactly what Batley are all about . Hard work and together as a team . Halifax individuals with no togetherness and a rudderless coach . Defo time to go for grix
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| When he comes out and says that this performance has been coming, he may as well as said, I knew this was was going to happen but couldn't prevent it. A litmus test of the boards ambition. Bulls win tonight and we are probably in a scrap for 6th. A slow and steady decline over the last two months, punctuated by one good half against Swinton and a sending off against Barrow which covered up that game. The fact is that he has been unable to adapt since Keyes went down which I think speaks to his abilities as a coach. They settled for a non- descript assistant coach. He persists with Wood no matter what. You can comfortably push woody to 6. What was the point in Pickersgill? Throw in the debacle of Maher, King, Doro (clearly not at the club anymore), Maizen clearly going too. Tangata, Moore, Larroyer all should have been moved on at the backend of last year. The 1895 cup is just a ruse. Go look at the IMG criteria and you can see the literal the 0.1 you get for winning it.
I think fans can appreciate that other teams do get better, and some teams decline over time but the decay in the team is so evident and that the team is reliant on Keyes. Grix openly said this in his interview. He hasn't been able to get Jouffret or Wood to adapt their game. Controversial but maybe should have kept Aston over Jouffret. He's a flair, confidence player and I think he has been found wanting this last two months also.
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| I think using Keyes as an excuse for our awful form is somewhat exaggerated. Keyes form at the start was so indifferent there were calls for him to be dropped, and other championship teams don't appear to have outstanding half backs they rely on as much as Grix claims we rely on Keyes. So why is he so special?
It's all fallen to bits and I cannot see how this can be turned around. 42 nil is a shocker. I wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle beat us this Sunday, they had a useful win against Haven and aren't that bad.
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| The big question to ask is, What Next?
I've said elsewhere that the club is doing great things in the community, the LDRL team, Wheelchair team, Ladies team, but the main thing the club is judged on is the first team, and currently they are well below par.
Recruitment has turned out to be terrible, but most people were happy with it pre season, for whatever reason a few haven't fit in at the club, while many will have been signed by the old board the coaching staff will have had input. Further signings since must have had input but Pickersgill seems the strangest one, my theory on that one is we've signed him as a favour to an agent or someone to line up further signings, but that is probably just a conspiracy.
Grix seems out of ideas, while I've been saying "Grix out" for longer than most, I do partly feel sorry for the situation he is in, he lost his assistant (Finn) part way through last season, and then his brother left also, our fitness has been no where near since, although it is thought by some he is still involved. But ultimately he now has to turn the team around, people defending him say its not his fault the players aren't doing what he tells them, but as the coach he needs to get them to, or do something more to their strengths.
As Tony Fax pointed out, its rare once a coach at fax loses the crowd they get them back on side, but in reality I don't think changing the coach now is a good idea. I'd see the season out with Grix and have him leave then.
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| All i can say is glad it was only a tenner.
Fans arguing amongst them selves in the stands somethign must change now
Wish he would just walk but the board need to realise fans have had enough and sort it
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| Yes, I think Grix will stay simply because it'll cost too much to sack him, and who's out there to replace him? Even the tried and trusted John Kear has been sacked twice in quick succession at Bradford and Widnes.
I really feel for Grix. He's a good bloke who's Halifax through and through, even to the point where he takes great pride in signing local lads. Maybe that's a negative, coaching with the heart rather than the head?
I hope the crowd on Sunday "behave themselves" and cut him some slack. There's a big difference between being critical and abusive. I remember Karl Harrison getting so much abuse he could no longer sit in his favoured stand position, having to come down to the touchline to coach. And going back further Tony Anderson got it bad. Time to stick together more than ever.
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| Agreed in regards to how its going to be really hard for him to come back from this, yesterday I would imagine should be the final straw but I can't see Grix walking so now its up to the board. The fact is that it will cost the club thousands of pounds through the gates and although they may feel they can't afford to sack him, it could cause long term damage to the club if he were to stay when he seems to have clearly lost the team.
No team has a devine right to win every game and you will get the odd freak result like we did at Widnes which can at the time be put down to circumstances but when it happens a few times over then questions need to be asked. Yesterday sounds like the players just gave up and when that happens its always the coach that bares the brunt. Our players look devoid of confidence and on the face of it seem to get little support from their coach, certainly in public anyway. Grix played at a time when players were hard faced and in a time where it was man up or get out, its unlikely today's players will all react well to that but he does give that impression in his interviews that it is maybe the route he goes down.
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| If we lose next game he will have to go. Our players are not doing the basics.
Batley is never a easy place to go without a recognized scrum half.
All i would say is we have strengthened in areas , which we didn't need. We needed a scrum half!
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| Marshall was sacked for less
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| The thing was we were not playing great even when Keyes was fit and playing so like Tony says, I'm not really sure it can be used as too much of an excuse even though we have obviously missed him. Put Thurston in his prime in that team yesterday and we don't have much different of a result.
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| Looking at the clubs latest accounts on Companies House, maybe sacking Grix isnt viable.
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| Quote: Bubba "Looking at the clubs latest accounts on Companies House, maybe sacking Grix isnt viable.'"
I saw them last week when they were uploaded, not great reading.
Plenty of clubs struggling now though, Whitehaven have just sent out a link to a Go Fund Me to try and shore up their finances.
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