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Incorrect. It's a community sports stadium regardless of who it suits.
The truth is if you would admit it you would love it if it was just a football stadium. After 18 years you can't get past Fax are there and it's the objection to that at the root of every post no matter how it's dressed up to look.
Who was to blame for allowing the Shay to become a dump and eyesore of the Town when only football and speedway was there?

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Jeez!

My dad's bigger than yours boll***s again!!!!

Why don't you all get over it? Both clubs have to share the facilities, end of. And one club, or the other, will always be perceived to be getting something more than the other. Why don't we just agree to disagree on who is the council's favourite, because it seems to me that it's them that are screwing the clubs over one way or another.

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Quote: faxcar "Incorrect. It's a community sports stadium regardless of who it suits.
The truth is if you would admit it you would love it if it was just a football stadium. After 18 years you can't get past Fax are there and it's the objection to that at the root of every post no matter how it's dressed up to look.
Who was to blame for allowing the Shay to become a dump and eyesore of the Town when only football and speedway was there?'"


Well, to say I spent at least the first ten years of HRLFC playing at the Shay as a regular (home and away) I dont think you have a valid point.

As for the Shay becoming a dump - it was never owned by HTAFC so again you are just clutching at straws.

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Could everyone please check with Bubba before posting to ensure that the he agrees or the post won't be valid.
Town have been lucky to been able to have a stadium provided by the council and payed for by the community all these years because without it they would have had nothing of their own making.
That being they case how can a few supporters of a club that have taken so much from the communities finances still not be satisfied and think that they can dictate to everyone else.
Fact is although the Shay is far from being ideal, since the rugby club moved there it initially improved more in those few years than all the years previous put together.

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Quote: faxcar "Fact is although the Shay is far from being ideal, since the rugby club moved there it initially improved more in those few years than all the years previous put together.'"


Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC.

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Quote: Bubba "Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC.'"

Must all be down to Town then.
Take the credit when the Shay is improved.

"As for the Shay becoming a dump - it was never owned by HTAFC".

Abdicate any responsibility for improvements.
There's no contradiction, really there isn't.

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Quote: Bubba "Its a community sports stadium when it suits you. Bubba. The simple fact is Halifax RLFC have been tenants down The Shay far longer than FC Halifax Town.

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Quote: Bubba "Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC.'"


The New East stand would never have happened if Town had remained the only tenants at the ground, in fact I'm pretty sure they would have gone bust, oh hang on!

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Quote: Norman Bates "The New East stand would never have happened if Town had remained the only tenants at the ground, in fact I'm pretty sure they would have gone bust, oh hang on!'"


The East Stand design was initially so big to satisfy the requirements of Super League - we all know there wasnt such a requirement for the Football League. It is fair to say that CMBC would not have completed the East Stand had it not been a shared stadium but that doesnt absolve HRLFC from the historical issues. The initial funding to get the stadium up to Football League and Super League standard came from the Football Stadium Improvement Fund and was not dependent on Fax being at the Shay.

The 2nd part once again shows a complete lack of understanding. The majority of the debts which led to the demise of HTAFC were related to the East Stand development. In fact, the creditor who led the revolt and refused to accept the Administrators proposal were the steel erectors. Fax put little more than sod all into the stadium development whilst the football club struggled with the debt (partly due to the ridiculous way the development was managed by all sides).

Keep bringing up the false claims and I shall keep on swatting them away icon_biggrin.gifANCE:

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If the initial funding was a grant then why did the rest of the debt fall on Town's shoulders and force their demise when it was mean't to have been of mutual benefit ?

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Quote: Bubba "The East Stand design was initially so big to satisfy the requirements of Super League - we all know there wasnt such a requirement for the Football League.
Yet you claim the improvements " Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC."

It is fair to say that CMBC would not have completed the East Stand had it not been a shared stadium.

Yet you claim the improvements " Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC."

The initial funding to get the stadium up to Football League and Super League standard came from the Football Stadium Improvement Fund and was not dependent on Fax being at the Shay.

Yet you claim "Yes, which was in no way down to HRLFC". Even though Fax were one of the ones sharing the stadium.



Keep bringing up the false claims and contradictions within your own posts and I shall keep on swatting them away
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Quote: Bubba "Well, to say I spent at least the first ten years of HRLFC playing at the Shay as a regular (home and away) I dont think you have a valid point.

As for the Shay becoming a dump - it was never owned by HTAFC so again you are just clutching at straws.'"


Was it not? The way some Town fans go on you would think it must be still owned by them. The grounds shortest serving tenants do seem to have very short memories though, I mean its like before 2008 never existed and we should just forget about the number of times in the past they screwed over businesses and the council(In before they tell us it was nasty Fax's fault).

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Full list of Town's creditors just because Bubba likes "Facts"https://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/football/fc-halifax-town/halifax-town-creditors-full-list-of-who-is-owed-money-by-the-club-and-how-much-1-1910509rl

Worth noting that the rent that town screwed the council out of is not even included on this list when it is common knowledge that Town were thousands of pounds in debt to the council.

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Bubba regularly mentions Fax history issues and accountability yet either no mention or it's everybody else at fault concerning Towns history issues and their accountability.
He comes on as the fountain of knowledge arrogantly correcting people and the great voice of reason.

Yet when a club / tenant has an issue with the landlord over rent he produces a post with dozens of lines on office sizes, useage, etc etc etc.
Is that the action of a normal rational thinking person, who else would do that.
Who would care a jot if Town want to speak to the council over the same issue?
My advise is go and see a physiatrist but please make sure he has no connections with Fax otherwise he would be blaimed for you having the condition in the first place.

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Can I respectfully suggest that we all stop rising to Gavin, he has his agenda, never hidden, he hates Fax, that's his prerogative,
Nothing any of us say will make him think rationally.

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