Best way 2 deal with right wing loonies is ignore them. One of them is daft enough 2 b a suicide bomber soon so he he will get a place in paradise with 70 pommegranets.

They do no realise when they have gone there is nothing left.

Apologies is pomeggranettes spelt wrong ?

I'll be watching the footy. It's Halifax. I'll be wishing them well.

The pubteam did once used to own The Shay, but sold it to the Council many years ago when it was once again short of cash. The Pubteam are as much squatters as Fax are. The Shay is used sadly by less than 1% of the population of Calderdale regularly and costs a fortune to run and does lose money. Maybe if the Pubteam payed more rent money than the peanuts it pays now, then that would help. The Shay is in need of redevelopment, something the council cant afford to do properly. Instead of vexing anger at Fax and Mr Abbott and the Council, the Pubteam fans should look closer to home and ask why the Pubteam was not so concerned about a potential sale and did next to nothing. Why are the Pubteam still paying so little rent that when paying a higher rent like Fax would help maybe pay for proper drainage etc.

Spiritual home is all it is. The Shay is concrete and steel around a pitch. Thrum Hall is our spiritual home. But it no longer exists and Fax still survives, even if playing down at the Shay, which lacks the atmosphere of the old Thrum Hall had. Too much emotion is tied to this Spiritual home thing. A club is more than just about its spiritual home or the past. The Shay was not going to be sold and as owners, the Council have the right to look at a bid should somebody want to buy the Shay and dont need to inform anybody. Mr Abbott wanted to keep sport at The Shay and in his opinion help both clubs. Just because small minded people who follow the Pubteam are not happy, does not mean they have to create lies and a hate campaign against Fax, Mr Abbott or the Council. The Hysteria was way over the top. And what did the Pubteam itself actually do about it? If it was so concerned, it would have done more. The actions of the likes of Gavin Butler and his crew were not needed, nor was the lies and hate campaign that started on the Shaymen.net forum.

Halifax Town have never owned the Shay. Why do you keep coming out with this nonsense? The soccer club have only ever been tenants of the council from day one. They sub-let to the speedway for a while and sold the long-term lease back to the council in exchange for a bail out in the 1980's. They then got another lease and gave this up when the first stadium company was created.

Neither, I suppose, were those of HTST and Fax Trust back in 2006 then?

Well piecing together some of the comments form Town Fans is bizarre to say the least.

If there was never any deal in place why all the fuss about a single A4 piece of paper??

The councillors finally saw the light, just how long had they been blinded by two paragraphs on an A4.

The Shay supposedly being up for sale and it's irrelevant for the BOD one of the sitting tennants to comment on it.

Rugby fans being accused of insanity by a Town fan who says others lie all the while claiming to be a rugby fan, get your head round that lot.

Really? I would have thought it were the other way round to be honest but I dont really follow football but would be interested in what facts are.

I were at the meeting too and remember just about what he said. Do you know for a fact that it his TA`s company that is running the payday loan company? Can you say for sure that it is and provide the evidence? I get that the company is listed as running from Reactivs address but like anything in business that could easily be office space that is let out by his company.

I would be very interested in the answers to these questions because I would also be worried if in fact TA did turn out to have companies that did this after strongly denying it.

An imposter ? .

not another one.

I dont have anything against you Gavin for trying to stop the sale of The Shay. But the accusations of what Mr Abbott and others have alleged to have done and your friends over on Shaymen.net, finding it OK to liken Mr Abbott to a Childmolester and accusing him and Mr Steele, as well as the Council, of backhand dealings etc is very wrong. The way a number of your friends over on your forum, have made and continue to make wild accsations and feel its OK to drive somebody out the Town just for wanting to buy the Shay is a disgrace. You dont want the sale of The Shay fair enough and your campaign to stop it OK. But to be part of this campaign to put Mr Abbott in a bad light as much as possible is not.

You claim to be a Rugby fan, like a number of your fellow fans, yet all you do is talk down the Rugby Club. Thats not a fan. The club are far from perfect, but the likes of Abbott, Steele, Riley etc have put much time and effort in to get the club where it is often in a voluntary basis. The record is they have brought a club that was close to going under, to one that is now making small profits and breaking sponsorship deal records.

What angers me is the way you and the Mods have allowed a hate campaign to grow and grow on the Shaymen.net forum against Fax and the likes of Abbott. Steele, etc. The hate campaign against Mr Abbott is now questioning the authenticity of the Heartbeat of Sport. I know the work these guys do and for nothing. Its a disgrace to question the motives of these people.

And by the way I dont even read, let alone post on the Courier Website.

Look please just go away.

I know my mate Charlie and I are not every ones cup of tea. (complaints to the mods about us going off thread?) but Charlie is a good bloke with a passion for Rugby League, can't say the same for the imposter.
I apologise and will do 10 Hail Marys for going off thread.