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I agree. Maybe thats why FCHT supporters are a bit more wary about the stadium falling into the hands of a private owner because we are more aware and maybe even more paranoid about future problems given our past.

The thing is Bubba it's not just FCHT supporters many Fax fans agree with the essence of the concerns about private ownership, once it goes there the risk, no matter how good the intentions intially must be higher than the local authority controling it, I know I do.

However some of the things done and said by a section of the Town group in following up on the concerns were so over the top and extreme it compromised everything else you were trying to say and do, do you not see there is a right and wrong way to go about things and if they were done the right way you would have had support from some on here as well!!

The ball is and has always been with the council and whether the decide to sell or not.

Why are you puzzled that I dont know what our membership is? I dont look after membership. I do know we once had about 340 but nowhere near that now.

Of course Tony Abbott did speak to FCHT. Do you think the Halifax Town owners were in favour?

You are missing the point. Tony Abbott could potentially be the best thing since sliced bread. But what happens should his company fail? What happens when he dies (it comes to us all)? What happens when he has had enough? Not even you can answer that with any authority. And please dont mention covenants because I have found out over the last few weeks that these are pretty much worthless!

There has to be some sort of compromise which suits everyone and I am certain that there is one.

In fairness there has been some pretty rotten comments on here too. But that is playground stuff; I would prefer to try have proper debate.

And yes, of course it was the councils decision whether to sell or not. Tony Abbott did his bit in trying to persuade them to do as so whereas we did our bit to convince them that they shouldnt. Fair game.

i have always found that could have a reasoned proper debate with you. but some (one definately) have gone way too far with comments and more than playground comments.

Ah so unlike your mate SG you accept they did consider selling then.

"Your bit." The comments made by some of the Town group were well beyond the playground and more inline with despicable thugs.

Personel character attacks on the man, his family, twitter accounts, his charitable works, comparing him to a child killer and many more.

Hardly a platform or invitation to "proper debate", this type of high morals good intention talk in view of your actions is the definition of a contradiction in terms.

If that is "fair game" then once again, in print you have shown what you are really about and what moral standards you have.

This "persuasion" was motivated by his connection to the rugby club and nothing more, the rest of the concerned retoric was a smoke screen because you and yours don't want the rugby club at the Shay at all.

You claim it to be a community assett just as long as the community is FCHT and everbody else, rugby supporters, rate payers are surplus baggage.

Tony Abbott asked if he could complete one section of the ground that has been left unfinished for years and will remain unfinished for a few more years.

It was the council who opened up the possibilty of more to which he responded in the positive because he had the best interests of the two clubs at heart which was never malicious or with any other agenda, as it turns out, the recent halt in proceedings could be the best thing that has happened to him.

YOUR COVERS BLOWN, YOUR THE TAYLORS SHOP IN FRONT OF THE GANGSTERS HIDEOUT.

Cos you are good at throwing figures around when it suits yet cannot tell us how many fans are members of the Halifax Town Supporters Trust, I wonder why???
As for Tony Abbotts company failing its you who have missed the point as he has stated in public that the Shay will be a separate stadium company which would not be affected if Reactive went bust.

Not being a twitterite so can only say what I have been told.
The luddites have achieved their secondary object, I believe Mr Abbott is not interested in a partnership and will therefore withdraw from his plan for the Shay.
Perhaps all the bile and filth posted on various networks (sanctioned by the Town Chairman "We must resist this proposal by every means available" helped him make up his mind.
All the bubberites will go to bed now and look at Bubba's picture on their ceiling, but hold on, their main objective has not been met, Mr Abbott will not walk away from Halifax Rugby League Football Club.
Mind you, it can't be much fun when your season ends at 5.45 November 9th.

1. Nope but that is what you seem to think. The talks were had, the sale never happened. Full stop.

In what way does that makes Halifax Town a selling club? They sold one player to allow the player to reach his ambition and potential (currently in the play-offs in the championship) and the money raised allowed a more rounded squad to be built. Obviously you won't see it that way because it doesn't fit your ideals. Is it not a mark of the football club developing a player worth vast amounts of money?

2. So there are no financial worries then? The fact that 100k was pumped into the cub by its benefactor means nothing? I see you and your cronies have backed down on the claim of Messers Ham and Bosomworth putting vast amounts of money into the club.

Agreed Swifty. Always found you have something intelligent to add to the debate

Had a fantastic day. Still on the way home but a top day out regardless of the result.

1. The talks were had (held, not had thicko) the sale never happened, what sale it was never up for sale according to you, so what did they talk about then.

There a selling club because they sold the star player the only one anybody would pay anything for at the time, this sets a precedent and no doubt they will do the same if another player shows any potential.

They let him go to another club to reach his ambition and potential?

That must mean he could not achieve either with Town then.

350k for Vardy wasn't it, described by you as "a player worth vast amounts of money" and according to what you have just said it was pumped back into the club for a more rounded squad.

The next line you talk of people on here backing down on claims that "Messers Ham and Bosomworth putting vast amounts of money into the club" as if they hadn't.

Again which is it then Einstein.

Obviously you can't even work out that 350k is 3 and a half times greater than 100k so with your logic Town must have 3 and a half times the financial worries then.

Can you not put a single post togther without contradicting yourself, it's embarrasing.

Of course they considered selling. I think it was more council officers though doing the pushing than councillors. The majority of councillors knew nothing about it and were concerned at how it had been handled.



As I said, some supporters on both sides have made inappropriate comments.



My comment about 'fair game' was in reference to Tony Abbott fighting for his case for buying the ground and HTST fighting the case for the council not selling. I dont think you will find comments made by any HTST board members where they have been "inlne with despicable thugs" as you like to put it.



Your paranoia is reaching a new level. I am happy to debate with you but please dont turn it ridiculous.



I have thrown figures about which have been relevant to the debate. I wonder why this is so important to you. Is it because you believe HTST only represents its membership? Having not heard one FCHT supporter say they were in favour of a sale of the Shay I would like to think our actions represented the whole of the FCHT support base.



Come on! You are an intelligent guy. You're not thinking properly about this.

You can have my ticket stub so you can pretend you went to all your friends.