I think this would be a great title for the campaign. It covers the game as a whole, not just Halifax's issues, and is a direct attack on those running the game - which is the fundamental problem. It would also carry with it the thousands of other non Halifax fans who share our deep concerns with the game. It also gets those not in the know asking what the problem is, and therefore gets people interested. Also, I dare say the Union favouring national press would jump on it, which would cause huge embarassment for the poodles of Red Hall.

Looks like its a tough one. Its obviously a great idea in principle but with some people already saying they dont like this or that then maybe some things need tweaking. It needs to be something that everyone can get behind to build momentum. Its going to be hard for people to get behind something they dont all believe in, i mean for me the P&R thing, yes i used to like it back in the day and im not the biggest fan of some of the parts of franchising but im clever enough to realise that at the moment there is no way the game can support simple P&R, to send a Champioship team in to SL for just one season would be suicide. Also as someone has mentiond Hate RFL means i hate Rugby League basically and i dont, i dislike some of the decisions the sports ruling body makes and question the legitimacy of what they have done but i dont hate RFL.

I think this can be a great campaign if done correctly, but it needs everyone behind it.

Hit them where it hurts for maximum publicity. Picture the scene, Old Trafford and it’s Super League Grand Final night. Fifteen minutes to go and Warrington are two points in front of Wigan. Suddenly a disturbance starts in one of the stands and all the stewards and security cameras are diverted to the area of the ground in question. At a given signal from the three other stands small groups of Championship fans storm the pitch dressed in shirts of all the Championship/Championship 1 clubs with a huge banner for their cause and the game has to be stopped!
Eddie says ‘Who are this lot?’
Stevo replies ‘No idea, I don’t recognise the shirts. They’re obviously nothing to do with Rugby League.’

This could be done.

Quote: Fax4Life "Play in a RL hotbed and get decent crowds yes BUT what have they done for the French national team??? Nowt cos they are a team full of non Frenchmen. What do they do for the ENGLISH game? Nowt as they are taking up a place in OUR league. In a way they are probably hurting the game in France as what if you took say Man U or Arsenal out of the Premier League? It would lose some appeal as they are two of the major draws and have huge support. I have nothing against them but stick to the facts please.'" Not a single French man here. No siree. www.catalansdragons.com/index.ph ... e-premiere

Quote: Fax4Life "Play in a RL hotbed and get decent crowds yes BUT what have they done for the French national team??? Nowt cos they are a team full of non Frenchmen. What do they do for the ENGLISH game? Nowt as they are taking up a place in OUR league. In a way they are probably hurting the game in France as what if you took say Man U or Arsenal out of the Premier League? It would lose some appeal as they are two of the major draws and have huge support. I have nothing against them but stick to the facts please.'" Not a single French man here. No siree. www.catalansdragons.com/index.ph ... e-premiere

A few Questions I have-

- What is the aim of the trust these days? Its certainly shifted from the original plans when it was set up.

- How independent is the trust? No website anymore, a google search for "Halifax RLFC Supporters Trust" brings up a page on the official website

- Reading the "Supporters Direct Membership Policy" parts a) and b)



This protest/campaign does neither IMO

- I understand no one from the Fax Trust has been to the Quarterly Meetings held by Supporters Direct for RL Trusts for a while.



I feel that the interests of the Trust should stop with the club, a wider campaign such as this is not an activity the trust should be used as a vehicle to support, and is perhaps something that the supporters club should be running, if they did choose to involve themselves.

The Trust has done great work over the years, and this past year along has been very good by been able to fund the u23s, but Supporters Trust's are not fundraising vehicles,thats the job of a Supporters Club or Association.

they take as many fans away as many champ clubs take away. And whilst at home they get more than most super league clubs. Head into perpignan on a game day...the whole town shuts down whilst the game is on. But I suppose they are French.

As an original founder of The Trust I have to say Brew that you are very wrong on a number of fronts.

Also we are totally independent and are not just looking to represent fans of Halifax but all RL fans.

Let me ask another question...... How many on here who have voiced an opinion are members of the trust? We have about 120 members of which about 6 turn up regularly to our meetings. Ideally we need 500 fans and we will have a much stronger voice but this will take time

Brew you ask how independant is the Trust and I will ask you how independant do you think the Supporters Direct is ? The last meeting I went to I was aghast to tell you the truth and the Championship reps were somewhat put in our place by Rimmer , the only one to speak up for us was the Colne Valley MP.
I have challenged this since and was told that the Supporters Direct are part funded by the RFL and the meeting came across as purely and simply a PR excercise for the RFL.
Laura Harrison has done sterling work in this area for Supporters Direct and works really hard but I think it is a conflict of interest when an organisation born out of supposadly representing fans of the game are reliant on the very organisation they should be challenging.

If fundraising for the Club is not the job of the Trust but a Supporters Club then who is going to funrdaise for the Club as we don`t have a Supporters Club.

Supporters Direct does have its issues and politics, I understand the Premier League withdrew their funding after been challenged over something.

As for Fundraising, I see Warrington Wolves supporters Trust run the "Squadbuilder" as a sub section of the trust, Fax trust runs the "Fax Builder" whereas for instance, at York, the club themselves run a Squadbuilder fund. I see no issue with that but what other aims does the trust have currently?

I understand that the intention is to do this not just for Halifax Fans but all RL Fans, but if thats the case should it be the Halifax Supporters Trust doing this, or a newly formed group perhaps incorporating fans of other clubs as well?

Come to the meeting Brew on Monday and we can give everyone more info. We want to kick start the campaign but the intention is for it to grow into much bigger than just us. Think your thinking too literally about the trust. I suggest you read and digest the whole press release again.

The supporters trust have already raised 25k for the fax fund builder this season and as proved how important it is to the club and its supporters through hard work and determination there for I am delighted they have decided to try challenge the RFL over the disgusting way our beautiful game is run. You saw how angry I am about what happened with my speech in the south stand bar on saturday I was trying to get people to fight back and now the supporters trust as given us the chance to do this. Well done Linda, Chris and co I am 100% behind you.