Salford's new stadium news: 2002 news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 958244.stm 2005 news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manc ... 447190.stm We have every right to point out about a clubs inability to complete/begin building of a new stadium. We accepted it for years, but it's finally resolved... unlike some that have been pipe dreams for at least 7yrs!

Salford's new stadium news: 2002 news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_u ... 958244.stm 2005 news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manc ... 447190.stm We have every right to point out about a clubs inability to complete/begin building of a new stadium. We accepted it for years, but it's finally resolved... unlike some that have been pipe dreams for at least 7yrs!

Precisely my point.

The Salford Stadium situation has been a huge source of annoyance and embarrassment for years at the Willows. No-one at the club, or who supports the club, can pretend that they're even vaguely happy with the pace of progress towards us having a new ground.

However, how/why anyone feels the need to ridicule us over it, particularly fans of a club who've had similar frustrations over their ground, frankly baffles me?!

Nice to see you've got a sensible, reasonable view on the matter, which restored my faith in Fax fans. Shame it's not rubbed off on your comrades - there are some right eejits on this thread?!

There is an unpleasant and hypocritical element within rugby league at the moment that loves to criticise other clubs gounds and use it as a justification as to why their club is better, more attractive, more viable or most often, should be in super league ahead of others.

If we are objective about what makes a successful rugby club, where should the stadia facilities be in the list of priorities? Ahead of sqaud strength? - no, ahead of youth development? - no, ahead of financial stability? - no, ahead of fan base and community relations? - deffo no!

So to be honest, it pretty much at the bottom of a clubs list of priorities. And rightly so, if a ground is safe, sells beer and food and keeps the rain off you I couldn't care less if it has a capacity of 20k coz no one in RL gets those crowds, I don't care about electronic turnstiles or conferance facilities. These are just invented criteria to give Super League Europe reasons to exclude the clubs they dont want yet they waive them as they see fit.

Finally, if you look at the clubs in rugby league which meet these criteria, how many of them own the ground they play in? I will tell you, NONE. They may own a share in the ground but no one club owns a ground of acceptable standard. Many own nothing! yourselves being one. So please do not use the state of a clubs ground as basis for criticism as it is in many situations its a case of people in "other peoples" glass houses throwing stones!

Your ground is rubbish and isn't fit for the Championship, let alone SL, in my opinion.

thread gone a bit off track from being about a player to grounds.

Ahh touchê

I've got to agree with the post a little further up: it's gone off topic by 'a country mile'.

Time to let this go to bed, now, methinks.

Locked.