So very true , I would also like to point out that Mike started this thread and it was telling us all we need to increase revenue into the club.It was a positive post so lets keep all comments on here about positive ways to help the club increase people through the gate and extra revenue in the club.
I for one would like a fans get together especialy if we know people who might help out with printing etc.

Here's a scenario.you order a tv from a shop and when you get it home they have sent you the wrong one.The shop apologize for the mistake and reorder your tv.The new tv arrives and once again you get it home and it's the wrong one.you speak to the shop again they apologize once again and reorder the tv.same thing happens a third time and a fourth etc etc what do you do?you get your money back or if you havnt paid anything you cancel the agreement and vow not to give that shop any of your hard earned money again.

The"they are volunteers"argument wears very thin.

Never used that argument.

Here's a scenario; You make arrangements to have a business logo on Man U playing shirt, you see the logo on the shirt every game but then don't pay for it.

wow, to say we all support the same team we aint half good at sly digs at each other. How about all pull in same direction??

Here's a scenario; You don't make an agreement to have a business logo on a Man U playing shirt but see the logo on the shirt every game and then are asked to pay for it. No order, no discussion.

And another; You are told by Man U that in return for spending a small fortune and being a good sponsor in times of good and bad, we'll give you a photo montage of all your presentations on stage with the players, then on presentation night forget to give them it and when it does turn up there are only a couple of photo's. To some of our past sponsors it's a BIG thing. Attention to detail is crucial and who can possibly be expected to pay for something they were promised but never received?

Here's another; You turn up one day and find somebody else is on Man U's shirt when you've been on their for years and they never asked you if you wanted to continue before giving it to somebody else.

The list can go on and on and it's no wonder that Sponsors have left in droves over the years.

Back on topic. If the Club are prepared to take on board the suggestions made by fans in a "Brain Storming" session, then I'm sure it will be well attended and there could even be a prize for the best ideas that are implemented.

Do the club have a database of past season ticket holders? If so, as we are now enjoying our most succesful season since 98 & playing the most exciting rugby, could we not send out invitations offering "mid season" season tickets & also provide them with a DVD of a past match where the rugby has been great.

That way, they can see for themselves what they are missing & maybe generate more fans (even if they were ones who had drifted away)

The problem you have though is this, I do believe Yob to be an upstanding member of the community and very shrewd businessman, anybody with any sense is not going to believe he is telling fibs now are they?
Im really suprised there have being any discussions with sponsors.Trying to contact someone who is running the club is like trying to get blood out of a stone.

On the volunteers note. If I volunteered to build your house and did a shabby job. Would it be ok because i was a volunteer?

Anyway back on topic griffax has a good idea about the past season ticket holders. Maybe you could add past sponsors to that list as well afterall it cant be that hard to dig up a database containing all this info can it..........

despite being council owned, would there be any benefit (for both clubs) to finding a stadium sponser ,or has it already got one?

it could be called The Safeway Shay or something

The lack of interested parties to pay for naming rights is one of the reasons so many new stadiums are not getting built at the moment

The days of massive deals for ground sponsorship have gone

GFB - why don't you try picking up the telephone, emailing the club, call in to the office if you need to talk to someone. Quite surprisingly many people have done this today. Amazing I have spoken to people on the phone, answered emails and also answered queries from people who have called in the office today. Not that you will believe it but one person came in to book his kids in as mascots after they had been to a kids party that the rugby league staff had organised in their own time (voluntarily) at the stadium, one had won a prize of diners for two at the Sheffield game and enjoyed it so much he has persuaded his company to take a match sponsorship at the Fev game and one lady came in to buy 4 home shirts for her kids as Ben and Shad had been in to their school and given them tickets for the Barrow game and told them to wear blue and white.

Most of these would not have happened without volunteers. Let's get rid of them all then and we wouldn't have as active a schools programme, no cheerleaders programme, no entertainment or PA on a matchday, no commercial sales, no merchandise or internet shop, no matchday sales people, no dinners and no player appearances at amateur club events etc.

As I have said previously if you would like anything explaining or questions answered contact us - many other people seem to manage it. Until you do that you can sit behind your user name and post on here with an obvious grievance and let us get on with our work - no matter how useless you think we are. And yes we do have databases going as far back as our Bluesox days and we use these for mailshots and have been working on the excellent suggestion Griffax made earlier about mini season tickets last week.

what about just a small/ moderate deal? better than nothing! and may develop into something better you could hope

What about creating a game based on Halifax RLFC for kids- something like Top Trumps card game for example.

Its a shame that people have had a bad experience with Fax in the past but I truely believe the club has improved in many area especially since Mr Clay has come on board. Fax is manned by Humans who do make mistakes like we all do. However they also need to learn from the mistakes made.

I feel the club and fans need to work a lot more together-however the Fans need to help the club more as most are volunteers like Mal. The problem is people feel they have to commit themselves etc-wrong you just need to help where you can whether that be in a big or small way. If you can only help on a stall for example for 3 hours a year than that is better than nothing. Sometimes help need not be a big thing or require a lot of money or time. It just requires somebody to spend an hour or two away from a TV and do something worthwhile.

does anyone remember the shay babes? got the shaymen national recognition! (to sun readers anyway)