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Quote: Leon Ashton "What an EPIC FAIL
You on about the club or the area???
Thing is without a club then RL would not be played in an area - fact.
Siddal do a good job as do other amateur clubs but having a professional (or semi pro) club gives players that ambition to do better.
Stuart Fielden was a world class player although we missed him he went to Bradford but he is a Halifax lad, we brought Danny Tickle throigh but he was not a Halifax lad.
Both routes help the game, obvioulsy we wish we could keep all our local born good players as do all clubs, ask Leigh in particular but it does not work like that.
Wakey have produced some good players but lets not forget we have been out of SL for 6 years now, players go to SL if they are that good.

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Quote: Fax4Life "You on about the club or the area???
Thing is without a club then RL would not be played in an area - fact.
Siddal do a good job as do other amateur clubs but having a professional (or semi pro) club gives players that ambition to do better.
Stuart Fielden was a world class player although we missed him he went to Bradford but he is a Halifax lad, we brought Danny Tickle throigh but he was not a Halifax lad.
Both routes help the game, obvioulsy we wish we could keep all our local born good players as do all clubs, ask Leigh in particular but it does not work like that.
Wakey have produced some good players but lets not forget we have been out of SL for 6 years now, players go to SL if they are that good.'"


The club as an earlier comment suggested that we should be in SL ahead of Wakie.

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Super League

If/when we go up we better have the financial clout and the squad to compete because i don't want this
rl...just about as bad as it getsrl.

[i".........like mentioned in other posts,we are at the stage with nothing to play for and no relegation,most of that team tonight didn't look interested in playing "[/i - quote from a fan.

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Quote: littlerich "Super League

If/when we go up we better have the financial clout and the squad to compete because i don't want this
rl...just about as bad as it getsrl.

[i".........like mentioned in other posts,we are at the stage with nothing to play for and no relegation,most of that team tonight didn't look interested in playing "[/i - quote from a fan.'"


Hey we have no negativity in RL, you will be banned form this board if the RFL see this, evrything is rosey and this season is another 'best ever' icon_wink.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: littlerich "Super League

If/when we go up we better have the financial clout and the squad to compete because i don't want this
rl...just about as bad as it getsrl.

[i".........like mentioned in other posts,we are at the stage with nothing to play for and no relegation,most of that team tonight didn't look interested in playing "[/i - quote from a fan.'"


My thoughts as well , that is why with the utmost respect there is only Widnes that are a viable SL club at the moment outside the top flight

Your fan base has been so badly damaged by your last couple of years in SL that it will take a long term period of success to get it back where it needs to be

Unfortunatley the timing of this is paramount , get it wrong and you could end up missing the boat

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Quote: Starbug "My thoughts as well , that is why with the utmost respect there is only Widnes that are a viable SL club at the moment outside the top flight

Your fan base has been so badly damaged by your last couple of years in SL that it will take a long term period of success to get it back where it needs to be

Unfortunatley the timing of this is paramount , get it wrong and you could end up missing the boat'"


Agree but funny thing is Salford are like Widnes, Barrow and Huddersfield in that they rely heavily on a RICH CHAIRMAN.
So why are they so bad, yer its their first year up after promotion but they were odds on to go up so should have been better prepared.
Puzzled.

It also makes me wonder why the RFL allow clubs to be so dependent on rich chairmen, its a risky game to play.
Makes a mockery of their own criteria rules really.

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Quote: Fax4Life "Agree but funny thing is Salford are like Widnes, Barrow and Huddersfield in that they rely heavily on a RICH CHAIRMAN.
So why are they so bad, yer its their first year up after promotion but they were odds on to go up so should have been better prepared.
Puzzled.

It also makes me wonder why the RFL allow clubs to be so dependent on rich chairmen, its a risky game to play.
Makes a mockery of their own criteria rules really.'"


They actively encourage it , Bramley will never get back into the ' big time icon_rolleyes.gif ' because they are run by the supporters of the club

The RFL want ' sugar daddies '

More time spent on trying to get more fans to all our clubs would be better

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Quote: Starbug "
Your fan base has been so badly damaged by your last couple of years in SL that it will take a long term period of success to get it back where it needs to be
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Its a bit of a common untuth this is. The crowds started dropping when we were still at Thrum Hall and by the time we got down the Shay they dropped even more. When we finished 3rd in 98 i think someone posted on here the average was little over 5500.

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Quote: Fax4Life "Agree but funny thing is Salford are like Widnes, Barrow and Huddersfield in that they rely heavily on a RICH CHAIRMAN.
So why are they so bad, yer its their first year up after promotion but they were odds on to go up so should have been better prepared.
Puzzled.

It also makes me wonder why the RFL allow clubs to be so dependent on rich chairmen, its a risky game to play.
Makes a mockery of their own criteria rules really.'"


Where is your proof that we rely heavily on a rich chairman? We've hardly bought our way to success this year.

We need the books to be balanced and there was never a problem with this in Super League. We only went bust trying to get back into Super League and over-spending in the process.

In Super League we would have crowds of around 7000 whereas yours would likely be nearer 5000. Therefore it would be Halifax who would need cash from elsewhere to be able to be competitive.

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Quote: Maximus Decimus "Where is your proof that we rely heavily on a rich chairman? We've hardly bought our way to success this year.

We need the books to be balanced and there was never a problem with this in Super League. We only went bust trying to get back into Super League and over-spending in the process.

In Super League we would have crowds of around 7000 whereas yours would likely be nearer 5000. Therefore it would be Halifax who would need cash from elsewhere to be able to be competitive.'"


5 super league loan players to win the NRC might just answer that question.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Fax4Life "Not seen many London lads yet???'"
rlhoperl these rlhelprl. Both Cockneys and Both capped by England.

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Quote: gutterfax "rlhoperl these rlhelprl. Both Cockneys and Both capped by England.'"


Two, wow after how many years having a SL team???
One appearance for England in a game against Wales is hardly that good.
Yer come back at me if they make the team against the Aussies and Kiwis this Autumn.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Fax4Life "Two, wow after how many years having a SL team???'"

14 years of Superleague.......making them 9 and 10 years old when SL started. Not converted Union players, but League players. Not sure what was expected in 1996? Like, let's put a team in the Capital and they will IMMEDIATELY produce cockney RL internationals?
Not having a pop, just responding to someone who said he hadn't seen any Londoners make the grade? We had 5 cockneys on the pitch when we plaid the French 2 weeks ago. There are another 9 in the reserves.......Rome wasn't built in a day........kind of like that stand at your place icon_wink.gif

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People wouldnt be so bothered if the 14 seasons hadnt been propped up with money that should have been used on heartland clubs. What sort of system lets its roots fall apart while branching out into a futile and pointless quest for RL in the capital just to appease Sky. There is nothing wrong with RL in London but it should be done the right way. Bramley went to the wall while the RL watched on and pumped money into clubs that IMO are not gonna work long term. I personally think that teams should start at the bottom and work their way up. Quins and Celtic are in an entirely false position...thats what gets people IMO. Not knocking you for supporting your team its just that it always appears to be concession after concession, year in year out.

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Am i the only one who thinks judging teams on average attendance is just stupid? we are the only sport who do this. I find it annoying and disturbing that any team in the champs could every game they play in for the nxt 2 yrs and not be allowed in because they don't get as many fans as some other teams. Does the criteria take into account the size of the town i.e. london has about 9million ppl where as Fax/Leigh/Widnes/Fev have less than 10% of that figure. I agree clubs should do all they can to increase att but its all relative, the average away support at the shay with the exception of widnes is about 100. If we were playing leeds/bulls/wigan/both hulls they would bring more than 1000 at least in the case of leeds/bradford prob more like 3000 + about 1000 fairweahter fax fans all of a sudden the average has rocketed.

at the end of the day as long as your facilities and finances are in order if you win the Co-op champs u deserve a place in super league above every other champs team. If we win the league this year/next year and widnes get in sl in front of us it will be just plain wrong!!!

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