well done fax...........great display........

Well done fax i'm gutted for you all. I just hope we can do half as well against wire tomorrow.

Well done fax, great effort, i had a few quid on you to beat us today off a level start, however i did get 85/1 on the draw on betfair, so all in all a tidy profit and we are in the next round...days dont get much better than this...good luck for the rest of the season and show SL what they are missing

this result for me shows why we should still have promotion and relegation. there are a few teams now in league one that could compete with lower league sl teams , lets not forget fax are mostly part time too, if money were to increase in the lower leagues so more of these teams could go full time it could only be for the good of the game. fax would probably be more competitive than Celtic!

Never gonna happen, we're not in france, scotland or ireland

or cumbria for that matter.

unfortuantley have to agree with you, at the mo the rl wud rather have a poor supported uncompetitive team full of foreigners from somewhere that has no interest in the game than a club that is one of the backbones of the game

I am impressed by the result, very well done.

The problem with this licensing system is that the clubs already in there have an inbuilt advantage, and you are right, it will be very hard for a heartland team to dislodge an existing heartland team from the competition. I hope that at some point the Championship will become an SL2 with annual promotion and relegation on sporting results between SL and SL2. Expansion criteria should only be used for the presence in SL2, but not in SL. Licensing removes something important to the game. And as your brilliant performance have shown today, the top team in the Championship is not that far from lower teams from SL.

its not that i object to teams coming in from outside m62, indeed catalan dragons are a good example of how it can work. what gets to me is introducing teams to SL just cause they are outside m62 . had CC stayed in the nat leagues (and developed some local talent) and got to a grand final I wouldnt have a problem with their promotion to SL,( if toulousse do this i am all for them being in SL) but clubs with no history , no real fanbase and no local talent are being given licencees in favour of the likes of fax and widnes which are clubs that made this game and, in my opinion, are in a much stronger position to compete in SL . if we are to go down the franchise route then lets make it an even playing field , to be considered you must have at least reach a g.f in the chamionship with a squad of which is 50% of that teams nationality . how can celtic, losing week in week out be good for the good of the game?

It's good for a laugh though!!! i agree with what you say though, expansion is a good think but not by positively discriminating over traditional clubs.

Well I agree it is problematic. On one hand we may remember that the Dragons did relatively poorly in their first year. Though on the other hand, they had an average of more than 6,000 home supporters the first years and won some games (notably their first game, in France, against Wigan). I think we should give them one year, even if for the moment they keep losing. On the bright side they are not all ridiculous when losing their games.

In any case I hope that with the development of the Championship in a more international and professional competition, the licensing lock on SL will be moved down to the Championship in order to allow for a promotion/ relegation system between the two competitions.

It`s not good for anyones game how on earth these clubs are going to survive if they put another French side in is beyond me .It`s like turkeys voteing to keep Christmas,they not only have no show opposition fans they cannot sell hospitality or sponsorship for the match either FACT.
I can see in 3yrs giving Tolouse a place so theres London ???? (whatever they are calling themselves next year) Celts , Cats the average crowd attendance for Super League lot has got to be going down it`s a joke.

Today most of the Cass fans thought the best team lost I was not only proud of our team I was proud of our supporters too.Prior to last year we have had a lousy few years but this year has certainly given us something to cheer about.

Yep, if the RFL think RL is "expanding" by having ONE team in France, ONE team in Wales, ONE team in Scotland and ONE team in London giving it a national, even an international, flavour is totally absurd. For TRUE expansion you surely have to be looking at several teams in the aforementioned regions, otherwise it's a dead duck penalising those clubs who have an established fan base who are trying their best to get in. I mean ..... if England had one club, say based in Manchester, which was a member of the Scottish Caber Tossing Premier League, do you really think the entire country of England would all of a sudden be interested in caber tossing. Never mind England ... Manchester even? I don't think so!

cant we just discuss the heroic fax performance instead of it turning into a franchise thread.

We cant produce that week in week out.