3rd minimum

Owt below 3rd would mean we are going backwards. Go for the top and see where it takes us. Up The Fax!

Arundel now confirmed at Bulls - no huge loss based on kast years form

Whilst Joe didn't individually exactly set the world on fire he wasn't a liability or passenger either and the size of the loss will depend on who if anyone we get to replace him because as a whole the squad overall looks a bit light in the backs compared to last year.

Top four League position has now been confirmed by IMG as one of the boxes to tick but we don't know with what weighting and many of the other boxes are still to be decided upon.

Whatever they decide the game is changing, progress in 2023 and beyond will depend on how each club adapts to the changes.

Other things besides where a team finishes in the League will play a big part in this so as long as we get top four and tick more boxes than our rivals I'll settle for that.

As an example I'd rather finish 4th and tick 7 out of 10 than finish 2nd or 3rd and only tick 5 out of 10.

What every club needs is a clear pathway and as stated above as yet they haven't got one.

Having just read joes interview on loverugbyleague about joining the bulls he does seem a little put out by some of comments made about is departure from fax. Personally i thought simon was spot on with is remarks about joe and maybe if he had pulled is finger out performance wise he would still be a fax player. And as for possible replacements there is plenty of young and talented at clubs like huddersfield and leeds that we could surely get on loan at the very least.

What a load of tripe that is as well. Who'd have thought that promotion in Rugby League would come down to box ticking as much as performance on the pitch? Fax voted for it by all accounts though so it's a case of you've made your bed, lie in it. Rat & Ratchet, shuddersfield. White Rat 4.0 % Mmm!

It got mentioned on here once or twice so if fans can see it no doubt the coaching staff saw it as well. Ive heard from people within the club that Simon's comments were actually quite reserved compared to how they could have been.

Joe has gone now and so it doesn’t matter what or why he went what ever the reason is. The Bulls fans seem to be happy with him and so they should be. He is a good player. Some of the comments on the Bulls site are a bit off towards Grix but that’s how some them are. Joe is probably the best signing they have made so far.

Aye the raging bull character, he’s also on the total floor forum and talks a lot of nonsense there , comes across as a bit of a Ronnie pickering character and is clearly peeved that fax beat them three times last year . Calling Grix a moaning pxxck is ironic after dunnings interviews last year but hey ho it is what it is .