Someone who could ignite passion for playing for this club, I'm sorry but not many of the current team offer that like we had when Matt Calland was here, Did he get the team playing for one another with passion and Pride, Absolutly he did, Did he attract the right players, ( including Ausies ) absolutly, I dont care for this BS of local lads playing for a local team as clearly it doesnt work. He dismantled a great team and replaced with mediocre, he changes the team far too often and takes away players confidence by saying in the media poor this and bad decision that by players and then naming them. I'm sorry but if rhino cannot get this team up for a game like sundays then he has no chance. Inside ball after inside ball is just e, the centre's aren't getting the balls to the wingers, and Peter Fox has been brought in and not given a bloody chance.

We have lost this second spot due to complacency in the team losing time and time again when comfortably in the lead, the last 10-15 minutes of games we look dead on our feet, so whilst we are at it, get a new conditioner, next year with more games against harder opposition with less funding than the 4 teams above us i can see this restructure sending us further down not up where we should be. i honestly do not see us in the middle 8 next year.

This club really knows how to let itself down in these big games whilst under Rhino's command.

Absolutly spot on, Season on season things have got worse, i see no glimmer of hope on the horizon either, I am away for the next 2 games and am not really that bothered about the playoffs now either, It was all about 1st and second, I await the off season excuses of " we dont have the money of other clubs " etc etc, We bloddy would have done if we learned to play for 80 minutes, Clearout needed im afraid.

We are third in the league and have just been on a good run of form (sunday aside) I was on one of the people who was pleased when Rhino was appointed. But there does seem to be a lack of enthusiasm at The Shay on match day go back to 2009-2011 there was a buzz at the Shay a feeling of excitement which is lacking somewhat - Sunday was a big day and where was it marketed? Summer Holidays no bring your kids for half price or any activities for them , no band (although the singer did well). 3022 was a good crowd but what happened to cashing in on the sucess of the World Cup game at the Shay?

You can't rely on Twitter , Facebook and Word of mouth they only go so far nor can you rely on fans to put up posters in their own time , noticed we dont even put sponsors in the corporate boxes anymore - Next season see's big and needed changes to the game what are we doing to market Fax for 2015????

Agree with all this.My biggest fear for next season is not who the coach is but why everything at boardroom level has appeared to have stopped.

I have heard rumors that Mr Abbot is withdrawing himself and his money from the club due personal problems and that if we had (do) finish second that money would have gone to Mr Abbot and other directors who are wanting some of their invested money back.

As I say rumors and 'Im sorry to say I have nothing to write to back up what I've written but I believe quite strongly that it is true.

After attending the Fax v Leigh earlier in the season , I was very impressed with your Hospitality and the way your Sponsers are treated , along with the Facilities you have , they are definatly a match for what Leigh have on offer .Your ground and Fans are for me Superior to Fevs , maybe Karl has got some things wrong this season , but you are still in the mix , maybe not as favorites , I think the season may be a disappointment to you , but its not all been bad , personally I think if you show maybe around 6 of your current squad the door at the end of the season and recruit well you could still challenge for the Top 4 next year , obviously it wont be easy , but it wont be easy for anybody .

As you Faxers know I like Fax and want to see you challenging Fev , hopefully we will meet in this years GF , and stage a great game at Leeds , and then make plans for next season .Keep the Fax faith .

True - Rhino can only work with the money and resources made available to him by the board - if it wasnt for people like Roger Harvey investing in Fax dont know where we would be - My concern is Fax could get left behind in 2015.

To put it in context not a bad season really. We dont appear to be spending what Leigh, Fev and Harrison even stated Dewsbury as spending more. Let too many quality players go Beswick, Penky, Black, Barlow to name a few. I would like KH to change the style and be more fluent in attack. This 5 drives and a kick will not attract the fans.
Need more quality in outside backs for next season IMO. Ben Kaye a disappointment for me this season.

I completely agree regarding Ben Kaye his speed from hooker is woeful at times and I wouldn't personally play him I would much rather have holden there instead IMO

To put the season into context.... We've been poor, again..

The fans know it, The Board should know it, Karl should know it, The Players ought to know it..

The last hope for us now is to get to the Final and generate something positive. Can we do it ? Yes I suppose we can.
Will we do it? hmmm there's no indicator to suggest were going to do a Sheffield..

Well done Mr T Hall on probably the most balanced post over the last two days. I know we are all disappointed but the level of vitriol posted on here over the last couple of days has beggared belief - mainly I note from people who never post after the winning games. Anyone would think we were facing relegation not 2 points off second place. Given our budget was the 4th largest this year, if we achieve 3rd we have batted above our weight. And to those of you making a stand and staying away from games - I am actually not interested. Everyone is entitled to do as they like, but I will continue to support my team like many others through thick and thin. The season has not finished and we need to get over this an get behind the lads

B*ll*cks, take away everybody's bonus points, we're still 3rd. Funny how people spin things to fit their argument. We are 3rd in a very competitive league, yes we've played some pretty gruesome rugby this year, however, why would you sack a coach who has got the team into a fairly competitive position with what is reputed to be a much reduced budget.

Can't really compare until you lay out all finances, sources of income and benefactor contributions of all clubs. Relatively speaking we may be punching well above our weight with the finances available. Fev may have been expecting to walk the division with theirs and so may be disappointed that Leigh have stolen their thunder. Leigh may be sinking benefactor cash over the next three years in the hope of self sustaining returns.

I don't think Fax have the cash to splash in order to push into that top four next year.