No he's not thick Richie! He's a top lad! However, he's a bleedin hooker and in line with the stereo-typical hooker - he has an opinion that no matter what the evidence is put before him, he'll present you with an argument that his opinion is correct and as such won't be changed!

I'm sorry to say but it was a shocker of a second half. Personally i think frank is past it, not a impact player anymore and slow. Jones isn't up to the job at all and holroyd is first choice every time for me. Auzie is still a excellent player driving forward but is rarely given the ball when running onto it. Rob is a great player but does have his bad games a little too often at the moment, but would be in my side every time. Fieldhouse would be my first choice fullback as he has something special about him and miles i am affraid is just way off pace.

Sheffield, Leigh and widnes next 3 games. If we dont sort ourselves out by then then we could end up the whipping boys.

can't believe Nash & Holroyd didn't play !

Matt Calland has a problem or two to deal with, Penky and Black played like idiots last night, our centres were non existant, they were not brought into the game by black at all.
Jones needs some help from Calland to sort these two muppets out, they played with no structure or discipline, and they seem to ignore Dannys direction, i would be tempted to get rid of them and build a side for the future, we've seen the best of them now.
However, when Fev had the ball you could clearly see there runners targeting certain people in our defence over and over again, they had a game plan, they followed it, they deserve credit, our lot deserve a bollocking, that was appalling, they shoud be embarrassed.

That my friend is what we never seem to have, if Plan A does not work which is play off the cuff with certain players able to make us tries from good play like when he wants to Blacky, Penky and last night Beswick did, but when a team 'frustrates us' by sticking to a plan and tackling us out of the game we have no Plan B.
What happened to our kicking game second half? Danny was awesome with his kicks first half and it hurt them as they rely on 'power play' using their excellent pack we pushed them back with deep kicks but we did not kick well hardly at all in the second half. This is why time after time we look at the caoching of the team, why have such a deep line when by the time we had hit their line they had read the move, it did not work, it does when we play a team who are not as good as Fev but their defence is good, where were the dummy runners like they had sometimes a bit illegally for my liking stood in our line but it workd as it took ine or two of our players out!

Calland has to have a set of game plans for when one fails start on Pan B, but i must stress don't have too many as how can players remenber them?
Its just change things around if one is not working, is that too much to ask?

TBH I think we are in a bit of a mess at the moment for various reasons.

1. We look shockingly unft, Watene looked very unfit yesterday, I know he's a big man anyway but last year he wa sin great shape, this year he's gone backwards.
2. We havent replaced what we lost players wise, last season we could excuse our cr@p defence as our attack was so good and it could get us out of trouble, this year we don't have the same attack but our defence is just as poor.
3. We have zero impact from the forwards, Gannon has and never will be an impact prop, more in the mould of a wrench, watene is looking very poor, duel reg no better then what we have and Barlows been quiet this season so far. Its all well and good having workrate forwards but if you have no impact players then your in trouble, even Tonks showed us how its done.

Never said he cost you the game but you watch that try by Bostock, he swatted him away after a pathetic attempt at a tackle, but the worst bit was after he was swatted away, Bostock still had a bit to do to score, but Worrincy was having none of it, he put on an imaginary limp and walked to the touchline not offering to help his team mates who were trying there damdest to stop Bostock scoring a vital try, Rovers used to have 1 like him and White Adi Adebesi he was another waste of space, good with a free run but a shiiite rugby player. Along with those 2 you had too many ill disiplined players last night, blame the ref all you like but gob off at any ref and we all the result result PENALTY

Yes you did ..................

Plus having seen the game back, I dont think he was bad. Okay he didnt do well on stopping that particular try, but he put plenty of tackles in throughout the game and did plenty of go forward work.

He makes my team every time.....

Well that's kind of ging dong's point Rich. He's ok with that opportunity - most wingers are. However, if I was a coach I'd be asking my half backs to bombard him with the high one and exploit his defence. It appears Daryl Powell thought so too.
He's quick and a good athlete but he has defensive frailties - otherwise he'd be in SL!
A good quick athlete, Yes. Rugby player??? I suppose it's a subjective question so down to each individuals assessment.
Bob would have him in his team every time. I wouldn't mind him being in the opposition cos I believe you can plan to keep him quiet and leave his defensive weaknesses to open up in front of him.
As I said, it's subjective. Cost you the game?? Well no. Fax's discipline made a significant contribution to the result as anything else.

Yes, it is subjective, and he does have the occasional bad game. There was one game last year (and I just cant remember which one it was - someone will tell me) where the opposition peppered Rob with the high bomb time after time, and after he caught every single one, ran them back and even scored from one they gave up that particular idea!!

Yes, I would have him in my team and the season will tell, he will do more good for us than bad.

Was a disappointing game last night. First half went well but the second half was a disaster.

Was very simple why we lost... too many penalties. No matter who we play this season if we give them as much free yardage up the pitch like we did with Fev we are going to struggle. Gannon and Penky are just too hot-headed. Both have been in the game for years now but still give cheap penalties away that put un-necessary pressure on ourselves. Forget about the ref for once. If the players can't control themselves we deserve to have penalties awarded against us.

Fev didn't do too much fancy last night, we're just played it very simple. They didn't give silly penalties away, moved it well from left to right to catch our defence out and kept their cool under pressure.

One other thing, we need to get better distance on our kicks when we have a penalty. One last night looked as if we'd kicked the ball about ten yards.

Sort the ill-disipline out and we have half a chance.

qu)did we get a bonus point last year against Fev,if not Fev have gone backwards this year and we are a point up in compared to last year.

now that's a bloke who's glass is half full!!!