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| Quote Nat (Rugby_Aholic)="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"In that way that they are not going to have a five team league.'"
We had a six team Reserve Grade this season.
Not sure that the RFL would get round it if there was a breakaway.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"We had a six team Reserve Grade this season.
Not sure that the RFL would get round it if there was a breakaway.
Not that there'll be one, obviously. The clubs couldn't afford it.'"
Can you explain how clubs can afford to survive on gates of 4,5,600 or less in some cases,
Very little commercial income, a dozen or so fixtures at home per season, no prize money ? |
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| Quote marillion man="marillion man"Can you explain how clubs can afford to survive on gates of 4,5,600 or less in some cases,
Very little commercial income, a dozen or so fixtures at home per season, no prize money ?'"
No. That's why there'll be no breakaway. |
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"No. That's why there'll be no breakaway.'"
I think MM is alluding to the fact that those clubs get cack all as it is now, ergo they'll lose cack all if they breakaway. Kapish? |
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| Quote littlerich="littlerich"I think MM is alluding to the fact that those clubs get cack all as it is now, ergo they'll lose cack all if they breakaway. Kapish?'"
Not true.
What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.
And they won't breakaway. |
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"Not true.
What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.
And they won't breakaway.'"
You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?
The Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!! |
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| Quote maurice="maurice"You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?'"
My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.
Quote mauriceThe Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!!'"
Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.
If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...  |
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| Quote maurice="maurice"I class Barrow, Haven, Town, Leigh, Oldham, Rochdale, Fax, Fev, Batley, Sheffield, Keighley, Dewsbury and Swinton as a good break away comp. The SL tie ups will only be of interest to the dead clubs of Hunslet, York, Gateshead, Skolars, South and North Wales and the new boys in C1.
Break away, and do it now - they are fooked if we do. If my club accepts a tie up then I have walked from the game. We must force change together.'"
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.
Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.
If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...
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So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question
Matches at Leigh do make money, do they make any money for Sheffield ? |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question '"
How would I know ? 
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Matches at Leigh do make money, do they make any money for Sheffield ?'"
No.
Are you saying that Leigh don't need to run off-field activities ? |
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| Quote griff1998:2jw87dssQuote griff1998="griff1998":2jw87dssHow would I know ?
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Sorry I assumed you had knowledge of the system and how it can be used/exploited
Quote griff1998:2jw87dssNo.'" :2jw87dss so Sheffield dont make any actual income from matchdays ?
Quote griff1998:2jw87dssAre you saying that Leigh don't need to run off-field activities ?'" :2jw87dss'" stadium |
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| Back on subject , it seems the Bulls new owners will be paying back 10 % of the clubs outstanding debts , how generous  |
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