As supporters shouldn't we be "supporting" the lads with maybe some "constructive" criticism, rather than moaning and groaning and bagging them? Shameful.

Hear hear.

Lets look back on a fantastic season with some great performances from a team who play their hearts out.

Congratulations lads.

Soon we can soon look forward to next year with a few new names perhaps and hopefully beating the Bullys if they do get promoted (or if they don`t just get promoted directly by RFL to pooper league).

Sorry i must be positive about the RFL and the future of our wonderful game.

UTF

Well said mate. Up The Fax!

I've not posted about the game until now because it was so disappointing and I didn't want that to influence my thoughts.

Although Salford made a few mistakes, in general they were quicker of mind and foot across the park, as well as being generally stronger than us. You can't fault Fax for their fitness levels though, and you certainly couldn't say they didn't put a massive amount of effort throughout the game. We didn't play smart though and made far too many errors, some forced, some not. In the first half, we were done (at least) twice with a sweeping move from Salford where they shifted a load of players from one side of the field to the other. We didn't know how to handle it, and each time our players were so busy trying to work out who was going to get the ball, that they forgot to tackle the first receiver.

It was a game we were never going to win, but the scoreline was very disappointing. You just knew that Salford were going to score whenever they got close to our line, even when it was on the last tackle. Our goal-line defence was woeful.

We're pretty clueless in attack against better teams. Although we came close a few times, the execution of the plays always let us down (other than the one try we did score).

Regarding Jonno, I'm not sure I agree with the comments above. He needs a quality half-back partner alongside him and then he might just blossom into a great player at this level. I've defended Muzza resolutely, but I think this kind of opposition finds him out, and his body isn't quick enough or strong enough to cope with it. Time for a new number 6, but defo keep Muzza on the payroll in a mentoring capacity.

There seems to be a common misconception that people are not allowed an opinion unless its a positive one, it must be this social media mallarchy that has brought this about. It does not make one iota of difference if people on here use constructive criticism or not as they will have very little, if any, impact on the dealings the club make.

I wasn't saying that at all. Fax on and off the pitch have tried extremely hard to get it right for the last few years, it's a hell of a job, and we could so easily have ended up with other teams we've been "toe to toe" with in the past like Whitehaven, Workington and Oldham and be in League 1. So it really disses me off when some bozo says he's wasted 20 quid cos Fax couldn't keep pace with a team with 6 times the playing budget including an NRL half back. WTF should anyone think we should get even close?

I totally agree with that to be fair. I just think people are more than fine to voice their opinions within reason no matter how wrong they may seem to be.

Spot on, that's what a forum is for. We all have our own opinion and it's just a debate. Some of us may be just plain wrong, or we might just look at things differently, but the main thing on here is that we all want the very best for Fax.

We were pretty much nailed on to lose this one as they are probably the best team in this league but we put ourselves under too much pressure with poor play. Moss dropping the first high ball, why jump when he was under no pressure ? From then on he was always going to get peppered with high balls.

Thats the thing, when we lose people are just saying that we have done well to get in the top 4 like that is just ok. I think people are well within their rights to moan after a performance like that. As a team I don't see us been capable to beat Salford and I think most people agree on that but it was still a sub standard performance and we would have struggled against a lot of the championship teams if we had played like that.

When it comes to our attack its not just people saying things to have a go the stats for the last 3 years or so speak for themselves. We defend better than most teams but run in to problems if any team can get to the 20 point mark against us as we struggle to get over the line. RM has to find a happy medium in that respect because as good as our defence is our attack is dull and predictable.

You have to look at the bigger picture.Yes us regulars can see why the defeats have occured but we need to double our supporter base to compete properly.I've seen the reaction of people who've given the 8s a go and they won't be coming back after watching that tripe...to quote.

Watching the Toulouse highlights last night is how we need to be attacking

I expect a similar score line against leeds and hull kr tbf

nobody has a dig at the team for losing. But they do have a dig (and rightly so imo) in the manner of the loss.

if we lose and we compete - fine. Losing heavily because of basic skills, not quite as acceptable.

Bottom line is we paid and went through the pain of watching that match with virtually nothing to shout or cheer about so to me everyone is entitled to voice their views on what they have seen . I Can't stomach a trip to Hull KR for what I fear is another heavy defeat but will go to the Leeds match and put money into the clubs coffers . I can only hope that team selection reflects players recent performances not because of who they are or have been. Jones must be sick to death of carrying water give the lad a chance . He cant improve sat watching every week . Anyone know how Baldwinsons injury is?

Fair post that. I'll be off to Hull but I've got to say I'm looking forward to a wander around the Old Town's hostelries as much as the game!