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| Quote: marillion man "Under the previous Halifax coach we might have been involved in a result ie
Hi MM,
Not been to see Leeds for a long time now, promised myself that I would not go down to contribute to Ken Bates wallet (cutting nose of to spite my face), but will have a look at a few games now he has gone. Enjoy the game tomorrow.
Back on topic; football (like Rugby Union and cricket) is good case in point, by giving you a bonus point for going for the win, i.e. a 3-1-0 points system, rather than sitting back and not risking losing the point for the draw.
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| OK - if you insist .... Quote: FevGrinder "
So I'll ask again does the 3-2-1-0 system make a difference compared to the previous 2-1-0 system?'"
Yes - it can do, though it didn't affect any placing last year. I think it's a positive, you think it's a negative.
Quote: FevGrinder "And if it does is it fair to the Swinton fans that they find themselves in a relegation place having won more games than Barrow?'"
Tough - those are the rules, announced well beforehand. They got beat heavily much too often. Maybe if they'd used less DR players ..... who knows ?
Quote: FevGrinder "And while we're asking questions, yes we are in the entertainment business - so what is the entertainment in
That's just your subjective view. It's not supported by facts.
I'll be moving on now .............
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| Quote: FevGrinder "Hi MM,
Not been to see Leeds for a long time now, promised myself that I would not go down to contribute to Ken Bates wallet (cutting nose of to spite my face), but will have a look at a few games now he has gone. Enjoy the game tomorrow.
Back on topic; football (like Rugby Union and cricket) is good case in point, by giving you a bonus point for going for the win, i.e. a 3-1-0 points system, rather than sitting back and not risking losing the point for the draw.'"
A very popular song amongst the almost 34,000 ( !!!!! ) attendance today was:
He's out of our club,
He's out of our club,
that Chelsea b*****
is out of our club......
so, mr Fevgrinder, if the Fax v Fev game doesn't happen again in 2013 we'll have to have the beers in capital centro Leeds, before & after a Leeds Utd v. who-ever match.
You on ?
Footnote: Our mutual Fev buddies Robin & Mr. Ashton received rather gloating texts from myself regarding their shi££y football team & it's home loss this teatime
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| Quote: griff1998 "OK - if you insist ....Yes - it can do, though it didn't affect any placing last year. I think it's a positive, you think it's a negative.
Tough - those are the rules, announced well beforehand. They got beat heavily much too often. Maybe if they'd used less DR players ..... who knows ?
That's just your subjective view. It's not supported by facts.
I'll be moving on now .............'"
Thought you'd already done with this previously.....
FWIW - it made the difference to one place last year (oldham finished higer that Skolars) though you could argue that this was not a material change other than the play-off placings (difference of playing away to Rochdale or Whitehaven, now that could have been significat to Oldham).
Agree the rules around the points system have been made before the season and that's what we are all playing to, whether you like it or not.
QuoteThat's just your subjective view. It's not supported by facts.[/i" I have seen it happen through the last few seasons, but then again I supose you have to open your eyes.....
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| Quote: FevGrinder "QuoteThat's just your subjective view. It's not supported by facts.[/i" I have seen it happen through the last few seasons, but then again I suppose you have to open your eyes.....'"
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You may have seen it but it's just your opinion that it's dull rugby - it's just your opinion that it's caused by the bonus point. That's subjective.
On the other hand - bonus point disadvantages only those teams who lose by more than 12 - mathematical fact. That's objective.
Bearing in mind Rovers have won most of their games by a street over the last few years, how many times has this happened ? It's got to be games where the teams finished about 12 points apart, surely. Five ? Ten ? We're still going to be making policy based on a minority of games.
You seem a fair minded bloke - I bet there have been games where you've just won and said to your mates "they played well today - they deserved something out of the game". Did you mean that ? Or did you just say that just to make people think you're a fair minded bloke.
Finally, two recent results to ponder over.
Halifax 18 York 16 - game hinged on a couple of goalkicks that even the touch judges disagreed on. Bonus point for York.
Workington 6 Fev 62 - Town not at the races. No points.
Seems fair enough to me. Nothing's 100% perfect.
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| Quote: griff1998 "Dave
You may have seen it but it's just your opinion that it's dull rugby - it's just your opinion that it's caused by the bonus point. That's subjective.
On the other hand - bonus point disadvantages only those teams who lose by more than 12 - mathematical fact. That's objective.'"
Griff,
Again, I thought you'd done with this subject and you'd be moving on now .............,
You can't answer Fevgrinder can you ?
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| Quote: marillion man "They might do if you don't "play well in september"
Not without repeating posts already made, no.
Grinder's got an opinion. It's just an opinion.
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| Quote: griff1998 "Not without repeating posts already made, no.
Grinder's got an opinion. It's just an opinion.'"
I wonder if he thinks Barrow is in Cumbria or Lancashire.
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| I suppose that in 2015 they will either have to drop the bonus point system or make SL adopt it too.
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| Are Eagles actually Sheffield based or do they just fly around....
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