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Quote: NavviFax "

I very rarely post on this board.......we continue to follow through thick and thin. '"


Never sing when you're winning then?

I'm proud to keep the faith in our coach, the team and the club. Despite very limited resources they've all performed miracles in the last few years, and they've done it with pride, loyalty and obvious ambition AND they made us Grand Final Champions!

You carry on following silently and we'll carry on singing our hearts out to help lead the lads to victory again.

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It has nothing to do with the coach in terms of some of the players attitudes on Sunday. Some players weren't fit to wear the shirt and need to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror, they were the reason I left a Fax game early for the first time in my l;ife. I went to every single game and watched every single minute in 2003 where we lost all but one game, I don't mind losing, its when its blatantly obvious that some players can't be bothered to play that gets to me and that's what occurred on Sunday. Is that the coaches fault? Not necessarily. Yes he sets out ther game plan and tries to rally the troops but as soon as they cross the whitewash its the players responsibility and there were several who blatantly took the mickey out of our large travelling support.

Let's say Calland does go, who else is there? Look at when the poopoo hit the fan last year and many fans were calling for his head, it was backs against the wall, we all pulled together and won the league. This could be the wake up call we needed.

One things for sure it will be VERY interesting if we fail to beat Toulouse this weekend...

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Quote: Haighy "It has nothing to do with the coach in terms of some of the players attitudes on Sunday. Some players weren't fit to wear the shirt and need to take a good long hard look at themselves in the mirror, they were the reason I left a Fax game early for the first time in my l;ife. I went to every single game and watched every single minute in 2003 where we lost all but one game, I don't mind losing, its when its blatantly obvious that some players can't be bothered to play that gets to me and that's what occurred on Sunday. Is that the coaches fault? Not necessarily. Yes he sets out ther game plan and tries to rally the troops but as soon as they cross the whitewash its the players responsibility and there were several who blatantly took the mickey out of our large travelling support.

Let's say Calland does go, who else is there? Look at when the poopoo hit the fan last year and many fans were calling for his head, it was backs against the wall, we all pulled together and won the league. This could be the wake up call we needed.

One things for sure it will be VERY interesting if we fail to beat Toulouse this weekend...'"


Its him who is ultimatly responsible for bringing in the playing personell, So in fact if he has brough in people who dont give a fig then only has himself to blame for this lack of desire.

Last year the players not only played as a team but played for each other on that pitch and it showed, Some players have things on their mind but they get paid to do a job and they are not doing it, That doesn't mean winning but the effort has to be there and so far few have showed this. In fact a word i dislike sums up our season so far. WOEFULL !!!!

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Matt brought people in he thinks can do the job, its not his fault if they are playing like they dont want it, things are taken out of MC's hands when the players are on the pitch, what i dont get is when we play well everyone praises the players but when they play back its suddenly the coach's fault. i echo what others have said, last season people called for his head and then he turned it round and him and the lands worked wonders for us. have some faith in them!

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I am pretty lost for words with regards to Sundays effort. We were that bad. The concern has to be why it happened. If mat has lost the respect of the players then he would need to go. I hope this isn't the case as we have seen great things from a large portion of this team so capability isn't the reason.

My biggest concern is thinking things will come right given time. It is highly possible that we will go into round six of the league program bottom of the table on one point. Regardless of our potential to improve that will put us right in The muck. If mat is to stay then things need to change very quickly. That's down to him as a coach to rally the team and as importantly, the under performing lot that refused to bend their backs on Sunday and tackle, to look in The mirror and be ashamed of what they did!

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I think the only way things will come good this season is if we bring in some more players. Things just cant get better when our pack is so easily dominated. I dont even think its a case of players not performing, its just a case that some simply arnt good enough.

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Sack Faz!

Wake up and smell the coffee, two Grand Finals with MC and u want rid! Next u will be campainging for Peter Roe!

Get behind ya team/Coaches/Club not on the coaches back......

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Quote: Jonnie.. "Sack Faz!

Wake up and smell the coffee, two Grand Finals with MC and u want rid! Next u will be campainging for Peter Roe!

Get behind ya team/Coaches/Club not on the coaches back......'"


Jonnie go forth and multiply, we are entitled voice our opinion and i dont think anyone is saying Sack the coach yet, What most are saying is what has happened to cause this, We have had a full preseason, Warm weather training in spain, RAF cranwell to gel and team bond and then we start like this.

Root out the evil and all will be good.

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Quote: Jonnie.. "Sack Faz!

Wake up and smell the coffee, two Grand Finals with MC and u want rid! Next u will be campainging for Peter Roe!

Get behind ya team/Coaches/Club not on the coaches back......'"

icon_rolleyes.gif My god, how long are people gonna be in this 2 grand finals daydream eusa_think.gif
Do you honestly think were achieving our potential, do you honestly think MC is the best we can hope for. Hes had the best squad for some years now and hes managed one knock out play off win in a final, and never once got us top of the pile, or produced a side that plays with consistency and organisation, you keep dreaming pal, change your coffee from Colombian too, i have a theory its got other stuff in. We'l have to fall from our perch of crumbling sand before some people can see this though icon_sad.gif

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with opinion or wanting the best for our club, so live with it and accept one day Matt will be replaced and a lot of people will breath a huge sigh of relief.

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Quote: Haighy "they were the reason I left a Fax game early for the first time in my l;ife....'"


I saw you leave. It was about 20 seconds before the final hooter icon_lol.gif

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Quote: justthebasicfax "icon_rolleyes.gif My god, how long are people gonna be in this 2 grand finals daydream
WTF?

Jesus. Do you think Leigh have achieved their potential? Apart from the promise of SL do you think Widnes fans would be happy with the last three years? We have achieved more than our potential over the last two years. Yes - things right now look bleak but if you think we're going to be riding at the top for infinity then it's you who's daydreaming. I'm not saying that fans shouldn't criticise but the quote above is ludicrous and at some point you need to condition yourself for lean times. If you can't handle that then i suggest you club hop. Castleford are doing well at the moment .........................

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Quote: littlerich "I saw you leave. It was about 20 seconds before the final hooter
Thought that myself. icon_lol.gif That dont count. I missed more at the Bradford away game where we got tanked and halpenny scored a length of field try while i was having a wee. Think i was still dripping trying to get back to pitch side quickly.

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Quote: littlerich "WTF?

Jesus. Do you think Leigh have achieved their potential? Apart from the promise of SL do you think Widnes fans would be happy with the last three years? We have achieved more than our potential over the last two years. Yes - things right now look bleak but if you think we're going to be riding at the top for infinity then it's you who's daydreaming. I'm not saying that fans shouldn't criticise but the quote above is ludicrous and at some point you need to condition yourself for lean times. If you can't handle that then i suggest you club hop. Castleford are doing well at the moment .........................'"


We have to be pleased with 2 Grand Final appearances after 20 odd years without winning anything.

I can't help but think how much better we could have been with a Karl Harrison or Darryl Powell in charge!!

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Quote: Inoffski1 "We have to be pleased with 2 Grand Final appearances after 20 odd years without winning anything.

I can't help but think how much better we could have been with a Karl Harrison or Darryl Powell in charge!!'"


Think of how much better we'd have been with Billy Slater and Sonny Bill Williams in the team???

We can go round in circles wondering. Fact is, we [sizehave[/size won a GF. Fact is, we're still a relatively small-resourced club when you think about our attendances and the part-time status of our back room staff. Bradford fans probably thought they were invincible too in the late 1990's. Now look at them.

It's not nice and it's frustrating. That's what sport is all about and there's only Man Utd fans who can truly sit back and get used to being at the top of the tree for twenty odd years. Everyone else just has to take the lows with the highs.

Some people never get high.............................. icon_razz.gifIMP:

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