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| Quote: SRC "I originally posted as the thread was named 'Barrow' which then went on to question the clubs financial credibility.'"
I simply stated the FACTS about Barrow's accounts, I wasn't questioning their credability. But you came on here like some crazed lunatic claiming we're all obsessed with your pathetic little club and are having a dig at Fat Des. It's all in your confused little mind.
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| Quote: SRC "You guys are obsessed with goings-on at Barrow aren't you.
Last years' accounts are pretty meaningless, especially as .....
Crowds in 2009 were up almost 70%,
Have a turnover of £800K+ in 2009 to-date (season tickets have yet to go on sale which will greatly increase this figure),
We got to 2 finals in 2009 and topped the league,
Are due to post a £100K+ profit in 2009,
Have, in the last 8 weeks, increased the club lottery income by £600 a week (£30K PA), a figure that is still growing weekly.
On top of this, the club has NEVER been been wound-up, even during the very dark days of the mid/late 90's and we own land worth approx £5M.
I'm not obsessed with barrow, I simply posted on a thread about barrow. Everything I said is correct.
I've said numerous times we'd love a chairman like DES. Your he one who's on the fax board every 2 minutes......which you are more than welcome to do as far as I'm concerned.
Regardless of DJ's input, we are more financially sound than 95% of Pro RL clubs - including most SL clubs. The most important thing is that the RFL know this as well.
No story here I'm afraid.'"
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| Quote: Tony Fax "You said it, tec ... in Des's pocket. And you must remember that Des has LENT Barrow money, not GIVEN it. It's like one of them pre-marrital agreements between husband and wife, if things go tats up I want my money back, not exactly a marriage made in heaven, eh?
So ... when Barrow don't retain their trophy in a year or 2's time and you get some pist up dockers prodding Des in the chest wanting to know why, let's hope for your sakes Old Des don't take his bat 'n' ball home.'"
I think it is pretty clear from your above post what your motives were for starting the thread.
I also like this quote "But you came on here like some crazed lunatic claiming we're all obsessed with your pathetic little club".
You started a thread called 'Barrow' and posted our P&L for 2008. Also, Des Johnson's name is mentioned on this forum more times than your own players or coaches. I think that does make some of you obsessed - as earlier Fax posters alluded to.
I'll stick with my 'pathetic little club' thanks and look forward to 2010.
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| Quote: SRC "Great word 'alledgedly'.
Roughly translated means 'I made it up', or 'I heard it down the pub'.'"
Er no I didn't but you seem to know it all so I will leave it here.
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| Quote: cashfax "Having spoken to the Barrow lottery manager earlier this week, I can confirm that they have recruited over 600 members on thier lottery in the last couple of weeks.
With a membership of 6,000 they do indeed have a lottery that they can be very proud of.
The promotion involved everybody in the club, from the chairman to the supportes who really backed thier club by recruiting new members.
With all this extra income it really does give them an advantage over thier rivals, including us unfortunately.
Credit must go to Barrow for this.
Cheers
Richard'"
So we have lost our mantle of the biggest lottery outside SL now Richard?
I am surprised but will accept what you say, well done to them, how many members do we have then?
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| Quote: Fax4Life "So we have lost our mantle of the biggest lottery outside SL now Richard?
I am surprised but will accept what you say, well done to them, how many members do we have then?'"
Some confusion here.
You never had that mantle. As I stated, the Barrow lottery was the biggest lottery in the country until the introduction of the National Lottery and, I believe, has remained second only to that.
I really don't wish to argue over the matter of finances. Both our clubs appear to be in a healthy situation, both provide entertaining and highly competitive rugby.
So lets stop arguing and gang up on them Widnes b*****ds! hahaha
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| perhaps they have hyper-inflated their intangible assets too, or used SPV's (special purpose vehicles) to mitigate the true extent of financial concerns within
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3664.gif You've got to have a dream, if you don't have a dream, how ya gonna have a dream come true?
Are you claiming all you are entitled to? www.debtadvicenetwork.org then go to "Self Help" then "Benefits & Entitlements".:3664.gif |
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| Quote: championships_da_best "perhaps they have hyper-inflated their intangible assets too, or used SPV's (special purpose vehicles) to mitigate the true extent of financial concerns within'"
Has somebody highjacked your account?
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| Quote: Yob "Has somebody highjacked your account?
Google is his friend
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| ask me anything about accountancy my friend, i work for the biggest ****s of them all!
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| Quote: championships_da_best "ask me anything about accountancy my friend, i work for the biggest ****s of them all!'"
Question 1:
You pay a creditor - what's the double entry ?
DR ?
CR ?
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| Quote: littlerich "Question 1
Dr. Creditor
Cr. Bank
Q. Whats the most efficient capital structre according to Miller & Modigliani?
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| Quote: wereutherein1987? "Q. Whats the most efficient capital structre according to Miller & Modigliani?'"
Without looking at Google - i haven't a clue. But styler thinks it's this
We have massive thread drift and it's my fault. I apologise.
Did you know that Barrow-in-Furness is a large industrial town which grew from a tiny 19th Century hamlet to the biggest iron and steel centre in the world, and a major ship-building force, in just 40 years.
If they can do that to the steel industry what are they going to do to Rugby League? It's frightening. Des is the new Isambard Kingdom Brunel.
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| yes littlerich but you forgot that their modified model incorporates hypothetical 'bankruptsy costs' meaning that a highly levered firms capital structure actually can and does affect a firms stated value, however unreliable this estimation may be. I learnt this riveting stuff in my corporate finance module.
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| Quote: championships_da_best "yes littlerich but you forgot that their modified model incorporates hypothetical 'bankruptsy costs' meaning that a highly levered firms capital structure actually can and does affect a firms stated value, however unreliable this estimation may be. I learnt this riveting stuff in my corporate finance module.'"
I'd ask for your money back - they didn't teach you the correct spelling.
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