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Quote: Fax4Life "
As for Toulouse, why?
So it further justifies having Catalans in and give them a derby?
They don't have the ground, they don't have the support (inflated figures are given deffo) and they will be yet another expensive trip for fans to make, they are unlikeley to go to both French clubs have the RFL thought of that?
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Catalans justify their own place in Superleague with their decent crowds and development of French players. As far as im aware prior to joining SL Catalans were getting smaller crowds than Toulouse are now. Within the space of twelve months their fan base grew tremendously. I'd wager a few bob that Toulouse would get higher crowds in SL than Fax AND that they would redevelop their own stadium in a lot less time than it has taken Fax to build one stand.

The aim of SL has always been to create a national if not European competition, football fans manage to travel all over the country every other week so why not rl fans?


Quote: Fax4Life "Just a thought but...........
How many football Clubs come from London?
How many RL clubs come out of Sydney?

Cant understand why being in W Yorks should go against us, i would call that discrimination in any book!'"


How many football clubs don't come from London? A lot more than those that come from London thats for sure. Point is there might be loads in London but there are also far more who are not in London.

Thats not the case in RL, nearly all the clubs are in one area and theres next to none in other areas.

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Quote: Dan155 "Catalans justify their own place in Superleague with their decent crowds and development of French players. As far as im aware prior to joining SL Catalans were getting smaller crowds than Toulouse are now. Within the space of twelve months their fan base grew tremendously. I'd wager a few bob that Toulouse would get higher crowds in SL than Fax AND that they would redevelop their own stadium in a lot less time than it has taken Fax to build one stand.

The aim of SL has always been to create a national if not European competition, football fans manage to travel all over the country every other week so why not rl fans?

How many football clubs don't come from London? A lot more than those that come from London thats for sure. Point is there might be loads in London but there are also far more who are not in London.

Thats not the case in RL, nearly all the clubs are in one area and theres next to none in other areas.'"


We shall see, you are forgetting one thing and we saw it was very apparent - Toulouse is a Rugby Union stronghold and there is not much interest in the RL team.
I think people are seeing things through rose tinted specs.
They see what they want to see and that is that all things expansionist are good and there will be big crowds and fans flocking to the game as a result it is a European league.
Bullsh*t it aint gonna happen, the game now is worse supportwise than it has been for a decade, so what has our expansion clubs done for us then???
Nowt except allow RL to say its played in more than just the M62 corridor.
The question is has it been worth it???
Not in my book no. You get games with no atmosphere and little interest as be honest nobody cares in these areas about RL, maybe apart from Catalans but for how long?
The point is you have to build on solid foundations and for RL that means, like it or not, in its heartlands and the way it treats the clubs lower than SL is weakening the game imo.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "p.d thats poor


Siddal lads every one of 'em lad.
Not a good comeback actually, Leon will put you right.

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Quote: marillion man "Siddal lads every one of 'em lad.
Not a good comeback actually, Leon will put you right.'"


Er Luke Robinson not a Halifax born lad then?
or Stuart Fielden?
Plenty of Halifax lads have made it in RL, lik there have been plentyof Leigh and Oldham lads.
Not seen many London lads yet???

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Quote: Fax4Life "Er Luke Robinson not a Halifax born lad then?
or Stuart Fielden?
Plenty of Halifax lads have made it in RL, lik there have been plentyof Leigh and Oldham lads.
Not seen many London lads yet???'"




He didn't mention Robinson or Fielden in that quote. I know fine well which junior clubs they played for, but he didn't mention them.


Grixy's played for King Cross by the way, so did Hobbo, but you'd know all of that I suppose.

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Quote: Fax4Life "Toulouse is a Rugby Union stronghold and there is not much interest in the RL team.
You get games with no atmosphere and little interest as be honest nobody cares in these areas about RL, maybe apart from Catalans but for how long?'"

Toulouse is in RL country (not as much as Perpignan, but still). It is a large, wealthy, young and sporty city with top clubs in football, RU and handball (don't laugh, it is an important sport in France).
It is true that Toulouse is very big in RU, but it is not necessarily a drawback: Perpignan just won the RU French championship. On the contrary, the competition between Toulouse and Perpignan is very strong in RU and it will be an asset for Toulouse as the new competition to be the best French team in SL will be another factor raising the interest of the local population.
The CC participation of Toulouse has already lead to an increase in local support and in TV and press coverage (5 matches on Orange sport and regular reports on regional public TV news).

I expect Toulouse to be a massive success in SL with large crowds flocking in and a strong financial basis to build a very competitive team.

Once I said that, I would prefer a simple P&R system based on sport results only with the best CC teams accessing to SL. As a sport fan, I would find it more fair and more fun as it would make the CC more meaningful. Hopefully the RFL will go back to such a system at some point.

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How many football clubs don't come from London? A lot more than those that come from London thats for sure. Point is there might be loads in London but there are also far more who are not in London.

Thats not the case in RL, nearly all the clubs are in one area and theres next to none in other areas.'"
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Agree in principle, but look at he size of the leagues for NRL and Football, the point is ours is a small league of a select few, we can have French, Welsh, London teams with us, no arguement there, BUT ON MERIT!

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teams from all over country in premier league. but get there on merit and PROMOTION.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "p.d thats poor
What an EPIC FAIL icon_lol.gif I believe i posted that Wakey had recently produced 1 world class player and some international class players and Halifax hasn't. Nothing about producing standard SL players as per your response icon_eek.gif

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Quote: marillion man "Siddal lads every one of 'em lad.
Not a good comeback actually, Leon will put you right.'"


Only managed to name 2 Halifax lads icon_lol.gif

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Quote: swifty62 "teams from all over country in premier league. but get there on merit and PROMOTION.'"


Hey thats too obvious mate.

Its like this - we tell you what we want you to say and you say it, that ticks the boxes e.g Criteria states you need to average 2500 fans - so there are 2600 odd at Toulouse last week funny that as I have just watched the DVD and if there were that many we took about 800, which I know we didn't I was there, more like 300 with 1600 there.

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Quote: Leon Ashton "What an EPIC FAIL
You on about the club or the area???
Thing is without a club then RL would not be played in an area - fact.
Siddal do a good job as do other amateur clubs but having a professional (or semi pro) club gives players that ambition to do better.
Stuart Fielden was a world class player although we missed him he went to Bradford but he is a Halifax lad, we brought Danny Tickle throigh but he was not a Halifax lad.
Both routes help the game, obvioulsy we wish we could keep all our local born good players as do all clubs, ask Leigh in particular but it does not work like that.
Wakey have produced some good players but lets not forget we have been out of SL for 6 years now, players go to SL if they are that good.

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Quote: Fax4Life "You on about the club or the area???
Thing is without a club then RL would not be played in an area - fact.
Siddal do a good job as do other amateur clubs but having a professional (or semi pro) club gives players that ambition to do better.
Stuart Fielden was a world class player although we missed him he went to Bradford but he is a Halifax lad, we brought Danny Tickle throigh but he was not a Halifax lad.
Both routes help the game, obvioulsy we wish we could keep all our local born good players as do all clubs, ask Leigh in particular but it does not work like that.
Wakey have produced some good players but lets not forget we have been out of SL for 6 years now, players go to SL if they are that good.'"


The club as an earlier comment suggested that we should be in SL ahead of Wakie.

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Super League

If/when we go up we better have the financial clout and the squad to compete because i don't want this
rl...just about as bad as it getsrl.

[i".........like mentioned in other posts,we are at the stage with nothing to play for and no relegation,most of that team tonight didn't look interested in playing "[/i - quote from a fan.

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Quote: littlerich "Super League

If/when we go up we better have the financial clout and the squad to compete because i don't want this
rl...just about as bad as it getsrl.

[i".........like mentioned in other posts,we are at the stage with nothing to play for and no relegation,most of that team tonight didn't look interested in playing "[/i - quote from a fan.'"


Hey we have no negativity in RL, you will be banned form this board if the RFL see this, evrything is rosey and this season is another 'best ever' icon_wink.gif

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