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| We are clutching at straws if we are blaming officials. The fact is these decisions even themselves out over the course of the season. We are not good at winning games ugly and for whatever reason come out on the wrong side of close games. We struggle to score points is my early season evaluation. At Rochdale we struggled to break their line with 11 men. Its okay building your game on defense but if you cant score points how do you expect to win?
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| Quote: sanjunien "The League Weekly only gave the ref 3/10, was he really that bad ?
And the announced crowd was 1272. Looking at the highlights on the Toulouse website it looks like there were a lot less.'"
3 out of 10 is a subjective score/opinion, he may well have been poor in one light, and he relied on his touch judge for the contentious call, so I cant fault him alone for that. Where I view a ref as bad is if he is not consistent, and he was pretty consistent in that he gave good calls and bad calls against both, we didn't lose because of the ref, we actually had a chance to win because of calls he gave us towards the end, and then he gave Toulouse the chance to win with a call, the difference is Toulouse took their chance.
As for our wider issues, this might be controversial but I've said before we need exposure, and Fax TV should be taking a hit and getting the highlights available to as many people as possible to try and entice them down, I see no long term benefit from a couple of hundred people who saw the game paying a fiver extra to scroll through a rerun, I think they need to readdress this piece of flawed marketing sooner rather than later. It might pay for itself as an experiment but I would suggest it does not bring extra customers through the door or sell a single shirt, come on guys were not Barcelona, were dying a slow death.
It's not a case of the board not being up to it, or Richard not being capable, or the players not trying, but were making costly mistakes from top to bottom for over a season now, and nothing appears to be coming off in our favour. the board is going to have to dig deep, Richard and the boys will have to dig in, and the fans will have to stick by them, for me we have to find a way to bring in a quality play maker, and we have to get the exposure out there so people have more access to what a great game it can be. Watching Cas and Leeds on Sky isn't the answer. This is death by a thousand cuts if we don't show some inspired leadership and vision.
If we have to wait until next season for a crop of young talent to come through and take us up a notch then so be it, but we could end up playing front of 750 and have no confidence as a team, and our budget for next year will be nothing to write home about. From the moment we spanked Bradford in the middle 8's we've slipped on every level, apart from getting local players in the side.
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| No magic wand here and there has to be an element of realism. We are part time, have no major revenue streams as a result of not owning the ground/own clubhouse/food and drink.
Our spectator age demograph is not balanced between youth and older. No money man to fall back on.
We all want the best players, success, and big crowds for the Fax but the reality is that we are in an arm wrestle to sustain the business and be successful both on and off the field with the cards we currently have been dealt with.
As regards the game yesterday we lost to a full time team by 2 points, defended very well but that graft took the gas out of us on attack at times.
Our discipline needs to get better to stop giving soft penalties and the ball away cheaply.Game management in close games also needs to improve. These are things under RM's and the players control and we musn't lose site of the fact key players were not in there yesterday like Rob; Grady; Heaton; Moore(s); O' Brien. and permanently lost Mitch early in the game meaning 16 players sharing all the interchanges.
It's a tough month looming looking at the fixtures and we need to get behind the team and hold firm.
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| Quote: Living The Dream "No magic wand here and there has to be an element of realism. We are part time, have no major revenue streams as a result of not owning the ground/own clubhouse/food and drink.
Our spectator age demograph is not balanced between youth and older. No money man to fall back on.
We all want the best players, success, and big crowds for the Fax but the reality is that we are in an arm wrestle to sustain the business and be successful both on and off the field with the cards we currently have been dealt with.
As regards the game yesterday we lost to a full time team by 2 points, defended very well but that graft took the gas out of us on attack at times.
Our discipline needs to get better to stop giving soft penalties and the ball away cheaply.Game management in close games also needs to improve. These are things under RM's and the players control and we musn't lose site of the fact key players were not in there yesterday like Rob; Grady; Heaton; Moore(s); O' Brien. and permanently lost Mitch early in the game meaning 16 players sharing all the interchanges.
It's a tough month looming looking at the fixtures and we need to get behind the team and hold firm.'"
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| just watched the try again on Toulouse tv. still looks as bad as did from the stands. I thought it was only last week RFL was cracking down on the throwing balls at oponents and diving for penalties. the last one for Toulouse is a clear dive.
surprised got 3/10 after watching replays
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| From 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v
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| Quote: HXSparky "From 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v'"
The ball never changes direction. Not a chance he even touches it. Great positioning from Clint as well which is worrying.
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| Lino must have been distracted by sight of burger van.
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| Quote: chazzerboy "We are clutching at straws if we are blaming officials. The fact is these decisions even themselves out over the course of the season.'"
That's just something referees say, so that it doesn't look like their fault when teams get relegated.
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| Thanks for posting the link - absolutely terrible decision by the TJ
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| Personally I think it's bull that the decisions even out over the season, who knows, who assess this?
Swings and roundabouts as a friend of mine says, I'd just like a bloody go on the swings for a change.
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| Quote: Norman Bates "Personally I think it's bull that the decisions even out over the season, who knows, who assess this?
Swings and roundabouts as a friend of mine says, I'd just like a bloody go on the swings for a change.'"
I agree. I hate that saying!
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| Quote: Hudd-Shay "I agree. I hate that saying!'"
Charlie is tipping London to beat Fax on Sunday.
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| Quote: charlie caroli "Charlie is tipping London to beat Fax on Sunday.
Good.
Me too.
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| I expect us to lose on Sunday. The Hunslet game will be interesting as we are probably on their level with our injuries/no DR utilised.
The season is already written off.
Worst year watching fax since we got out of jail v York by video ref Ray Tennant, who showed Fax favour whilst Reffing, unlike Kershaw, Whitfield and the rest.
Holdsworth or Tennant were OK.
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