The league press can't count then, there were 17 referrals. 8 for Leigh (3 no charge) and 9 for Swinton (4 no charge).

Look here... [urlhttp://www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/disciplinary[/url rather than trusting to dodgy newspapers!

maybe it was me who lost count. It's been a long weekend

Sparky , I've seen the referrals list for the Swinton game,it was a very bizarre game, the 2 guys who were involved first Higson and But received a no Charge,believe it or not Hock was provoked ,and Higham offence wasn't that bad,I'm not sure what suspensions they will receive, some say Hock may not play again this season due to his suspension , but I hope they are wrong.

Well Charlie, all I can say is that Fax have had a grand total of 5 referrals this season, all of which have resulted in "no charge". Given the way our forwards bossed Fev at the weekend, you can't say we play it soft.

yes I believe Hock was provoked from the video I saw.


He came around the back of the melee, picked a target (who had his back to hock) and then grabbed him from behind and dragged him to the floor aggressively and certainly not in a way as just breaking up the melee. Then the swinton number 20 grabbed hocks arm to calm the situation and then Hock let rip with 5 or 6 heavy blows/uppercuts to the head whilst Ridyard held him down.
In Ridyards defence he was trying to break it up as he is not that type of player, but inadvertently by holding the player down, he was giving hock a barrage of free shots at the swinton player. I also note that the swinton player he assaulted is a winger and Hock likes wingers and half backs as his opponents because he is such a cowardly and s**thouse.
Charlie take off your rose tinted sunglasses and stop defending the undefendable. He is a disgrace to the game and should be banned before he does some serious damage to a player. Lets hope the RFL find a pair and ban this thug the game does not need him and nor does your club.

I'd go a step further if we could replicate that performance in the million pound game we could win it..not getting carried away though,80 minute performances only happen very sporadically(can't remember the last).

BIJ you seem very well informed about the Swinton game , I was there , but haven't seen the recordings,be.ieve me though whatever Gaz Hock is or you suggest he is,he is NO coward,Coaches and players target him every week, but for most of this season both he and Acton have kept their cool,the Swinton game seemed like a free for all on both sides,as I said Higson and Butt the guys who started it have been given a No Charge verdict.
As for myself?I try not to wear rose tinted specs, and always give my opinion,sometimes I'm right , sometimes wrong, but I won't have a go at a guy for defending himself, or if he is targeted by opposing players, it used to happen with Tim Street and Tony Cotterell a few years ago.
Again they will be dealt with today and probably banned,but we have a big enough squad to take in our stride and keep moving.Take care,I'm at the Shay on Sunday..

Give the Sheffield fans a ring Ian before you come over and you can share the away taxi with them.

I will have enough problems , as I'm bringing Frank and Wolrab with me on Sunday.

Having had a couple of days to think about it, top performance by all involved, we looked like a different team all over the park, not perfect and trying not to get carried away there is still improvement still too many forward passes and penalties but a big step in the right direction.

Back it up this week Fax and we might start getting our hopes up.

When was the last time we won a scrum against the feed ?

When was the last time anyone did?