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| Quote: griff1998 "In what way ?
In that way that they are not going to have a five team league.
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "In that way that they are not going to have a five team league.'"
Just about enough teams to fill up with their reserves
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "In that way that they are not going to have a five team league.'"
We had a six team Reserve Grade this season.
Not sure that the RFL would get round it if there was a breakaway.
Not that there'll be one, obviously. The clubs couldn't afford it.
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| Quote: griff1998 "We had a six team Reserve Grade this season.
Not sure that the RFL would get round it if there was a breakaway.
Not that there'll be one, obviously. The clubs couldn't afford it.'"
Can you explain how clubs can afford to survive on gates of 4,5,600 or less in some cases,
Very little commercial income, a dozen or so fixtures at home per season, no prize money ?
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| Quote: marillion man "Can you explain how clubs can afford to survive on gates of 4,5,600 or less in some cases,
Very little commercial income, a dozen or so fixtures at home per season, no prize money ?'"
No. That's why there'll be no breakaway.
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| Quote: griff1998 "No. That's why there'll be no breakaway.'"
I think MM is alluding to the fact that those clubs get cack all as it is now, ergo they'll lose cack all if they breakaway. Kapish?
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| Quote: littlerich "I think MM is alluding to the fact that those clubs get cack all as it is now, ergo they'll lose cack all if they breakaway. Kapish?'"
Not true.
What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.
And they won't breakaway.
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| Quote: griff1998 "Not true.
What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.
And they won't breakaway.'"
You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?
The Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!!
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| Quote: maurice "You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?'"
My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.
Quote: maurice "The Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!!'"
Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.
If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...
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| Quote: maurice "I class Barrow, Haven, Town, Leigh, Oldham, Rochdale, Fax, Fev, Batley, Sheffield, Keighley, Dewsbury and Swinton as a good break away comp. The SL tie ups will only be of interest to the dead clubs of Hunslet, York, Gateshead, Skolars, South and North Wales and the new boys in C1.
Break away, and do it now - they are fooked if we do. If my club accepts a tie up then I have walked from the game. We must force change together.'"
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: griff1998 "My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.
Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.
If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...
So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question
Matches at Leigh do make money, do they make any money for Sheffield ?
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| Quote: Starbug "So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question '"
How would I know ?
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that is all.
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