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Quote: Jaffro "Halifax are just been kept in as a fallback, in case another Super League club goes under in the next few months. There are obviously financial concerns still at Crusaders, probably other clubs which we are not aware of. If the rest of the clubs get through till July, we'll still be in the championship next year. Makes sense for the RFL to hedge their bets, but doesn't do our proud club any favours. We're a get-out option, nothing else.'"


Sounds like what we have been or the past few years if you believe what you here. Rejected in 2008 yet put on constant standby once Crusaders and then Quins were struggling.

Not 100% sure what your trying to play here Starbug, 3 teams bid two were always going to be unsuccesful at this stage so how are they being stitched up?

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Quote: J20 "Rejected in 2008 because we went into administration 9 months prior so that would have looked ridiculous had we got a licence.'"



That's better my friend.

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YOU CAN LEARN FROM THE PAST BUT NOT RELIVE IT.YOU CAN HOPE FOR THE FUTURE BUT CAN NEVER BE SURE THERE WILL BE ONE.:



I think what he means is are the RFL seriously considering us for a Super League place or are we being used as part of "the big stick" to ensure the Super League clubs get their house in order.
The way I see it Rimmer said we were ready for Super League and would be in the mix with all other Super League clubs in July . So as we are ready and there are certain Super League clubs who do not fill the criteria it isn`t a case of "do we go up" but it`s who are the RFL going to demote into the Championship. If we don`t get our place then it confirms what everyone thinks of the RFL anyway , that at best they are a bunch of sharletons and at worse a bunch of crooks come July we will all see if they really want any credability in this sport or not.

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I think what he means is are the RFL seriously considering us for a Super League place or are we being used as part of "the big stick" to ensure the Super League clubs get their house in order.
The way I see it Rimmer said we were ready for Super League and would be in the mix with all other Super League clubs in July . So as we are ready and there are certain Super League clubs who do not fill the criteria it isn`t a case of "do we go up" but it`s who are the RFL going to demote into the Championship. If we don`t get our place then it confirms what everyone thinks of the RFL anyway , that at best they are a bunch of sharletons and at worse a bunch of crooks come July we will all see if they really want any credability in this sport or not.'"


Agree 100%...Top post!!!! eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Fax Missionary "Just to add to the conspiracy theories, has anyone considered that Widnes's admission might be the pre-cursor for a merger between them and Crusaders? We all know Crusaders are in a precarious position and one which is unsustainable. If they are teetering, it could the reason Fax are being kept in the mix for July.

Not clutching at straws here but consider this;

(1) There is only 26 miles between the two towns
(2) Crusaders attendances are dire and Widnes have a strong fan base thus providing an immediate attendance boost for Wrexham games
(3) The RFL will save face as a presence is maintained in Wales thus supporting future development in the region
(4) Games can be split between Widnes and Wrexham with minimum inconvenience
(5) With Crusaders being a new club there wouldnt be the wholesale anger and rejection encountered the last time this was tried when SL came into existence (remember Calder
Makes sense to me which is precisely why the RFL will probably reject your idea.

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Quote: littlerich "That's better my friend.'"


Wasn't debatng the why's but simply the aftermath icon_thumb.gif
Obviously Fax fans will be frustrated with it all but again wasn;t confidence shown on here nor at the club on the day so after hearing you meet all criteria it appears you were further ahead then you believed last week even so maybe there is a real chance in July.

Yes the process is not the besst by any stretch but about being delayed to July etc that was always in place? Yes the 'preparation' line does seem a bit odd delaying a few months but wouldn't you rather be still in with a shout than not at all?

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P.s. yes I can just see SO'C putting money into Widnes working hard over 4 years to get the club back into the top flight then happily playing hald our games in Wales and cutting revenue icon_wink.gif

Reel em in thats my motto. icon_razz.gif icon_lol.gif

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: J20 "Sounds like what we have been or the past few years if you believe what you here. Rejected in 2008 yet put on constant standby once Crusaders and then Quins were struggling.

Not 100% sure what your trying to play here Starbug, 3 teams bid two were always going to be unsuccesful at this stage so how are they being stitched up?'"


It's fairly simple really , the RFL don't do ' Negative '

Now the situation is that a club currently in SL is being dropped , I would suggest that is a fairly negative thing to announce , relegation by committee isn't something we have seen before

So in an attempt to make it into what resembles a competition they need a ' plucky ' lower tier club to focus on , rather than the reality of the situation , which is a club being dropped into relative obscurity for the rest of time

A ' will Fax make it into SL ' , rather than ' are Wakey doomed '

It explains why they wanted Fax to pass the attendance criteria , otherwise they would have had to drop them like they did Barrow

It really is quite pathetic

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So just what's in your mind then?

Rather than credit Fax for hitting criteria you'll give a conspiracy theory that the RFL told them too ? eusa_think.gif icon_wink.gif

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Last three lines of this articlehttp://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/halifax-rlfc/fax_look_for_winning_side_1_3246571rl

Widnes chairman Steve O’Connor has backed the Super League licensing system that enabled his club to reclaim their place in the top flight.

“I was always a fan of the system,” said O’Connor.


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I 'kin bet you were Steve.

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Quote: J20 "So just what's in your mind then?

Rather than credit Fax for hitting criteria you'll give a conspiracy theory that the RFL told them too ?
There have been posts on here suggesting that the RFL told them to do it , and I seem to remember much criticism from some Widnes fans for them doing it , it was the Leigh fans who said ' well done '

The decision in July is potentially execution by committee , they need something else to focus on , that is Fax

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: Starbug "There have been posts on here suggesting that the RFL told them to do it , and I seem to remember much criticism from some Widnes fans for them doing it , it was the Leigh fans who said ' well done '

The decision in July is potentially execution by committee , they need something else to focus on , that is Fax'"


Major dummy spit springs to mind.

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Quote: j.c "Major dummy spit springs to mind.'"


Which they have since mentioned themselves on here! But at the time theyvwete saying it was correct now suddenly it's what the RFL told them to do?

Would you rather be on SKY and in the national RL press about being a possible SL team getting free exposure or just being ignored like the rest of the division are? It's not great but bet Halifax RLFC would rather still be in the process than out conpletely!

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Starbug is Rugby League's version of Michael Moore.

He WILL get under their skin. Right now he's in a TV deal with Universal Studios for his debut filmBowling for Catalans ..............starring Ernest Borgnine as Kath Hetherington and Andy Serkis as Richard Lewis. Pity John Candy is dead - Nigel Wood anyone?

Go get 'em Starry icon_wink.gif

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