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| Quote: Fax4Life "So why were they not allowed up then???
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Because some idiots changed the system to Twelves and Eights just as Leigh were on the point of getting there.  |
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| Quote: griff1998 "At the risk of repeating myself, they could have been up two years ago. They were in the box seat under the franchising system.'"
Wrong - in 2014 when the franchise license would have been given Leigh didn't fulfill the criteria (i.e. grand final appearance over the previous 3 years or NR cup win), but don't let the facts get in the way of the truth. |
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| Quote: Fax4Life "So why were they not allowed up then???
Franchising is NOT the answer end of story come on Fev should have gone up when they dominated our league but their face did not fit with the Fat Controller.'"
Quote: Fax4Life "Franchising has no place in it for P&R, it is a closed shop and that's what we had pretty much.
They changed it because it would have been embarrassing not have let Leigh in, now they have to and the Fat Controller will have to deal with Degsy as well as, possibly if he's still around, Marwan.'"
I agree with both of you Franchising is not the answer for our sport (UK RL). |
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| Quote: Fax4Life "So why were they not allowed up then???
Franchising is NOT the answer end of story come on Fev should have gone up when they dominated our league but their face did not fit with the Fat Controller.'"
Quote: Fax4Life "Franchising has no place in it for P&R, it is a closed shop and that's what we had pretty much.
They changed it because it would have been embarrassing not have let Leigh in, now they have to and the Fat Controller will have to deal with Degsy as well as, possibly if he's still around, Marwan.'"
I agree with both of you Franchising is not the answer for our sport (UK RL). |
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Leigh cheated i mean beat us in the NRC final 2011,wouldn't that have counted ?
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| Quote: mr t hall "Leigh cheated i mean beat us in the NRC final 2011,wouldn't that have counted ?'"
You are quite correct - it would (as would their win in 2013) - Doh - that will teach me to rely on my memory.
Though no club would have fulfilled the average home crowd of 2500 for the years 2011-2013 FWIW. |
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| Your memory is poor  we achieved the crowd average when 4800 attended our last home game against Batley :' |
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| Quote: FevGrinder "Wrong - in 2014 when the franchise license would have been given Leigh didn't fulfill the criteria (i.e. grand final appearance over the previous 3 years or NR cup win), but don't let the facts get in the way of the truth.'"
Don't worry, Dave. I won't. |
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| Quote: mr t hall "Your memory is poor ![]()
The Batley game was 2010 and so counted to the franchising for 2008-2010, which some might suggest was rigged in the favour of Widnes, not the 2011-2013 period, which would have counted towards the 2014 franchising.
Quote: mr t hall "Don't worry, Dave. I won't. ![]()
Rich,
So would Leigh have have meet the criteria to apply for a franchise in 2014, if the franchising system had still been in place then?
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| Quote: FevGrinder "The Batley game was 2010 and so counted to the franchising for 2008-2010, which some might suggest was rigged in the favour of Widnes, not the 2011-2013 period, which would have counted towards the 2014 franchising.
Rich,
So would Leigh have have meet the criteria to apply for a franchise in 2014, if the franchising system had still been in place then?'"
Fair enough-time flys. |
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| Quote: FevGrinder "
Rich,
So would Leigh have have meet the criteria to apply for a franchise in 2014, if the franchising system had still been in place then?'"
We'll never know, will we ? |
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Ifs and buts.
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| Exactly.
How can any of us say what arrangements Leigh would have proposed in the franchise application they didn't compile ?  |
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| Quote: griff1998 "We'll never know, will we ?'"
However we do know, since they didn't meet the criteria of having 2,500 average attendance in a season, which was part of the criteria, which meant they couldn't apply. So by definition your assertion that Leigh could have been in SL two years earlier doesn't hold true.
However all of this just deflects from your initial point that it was easier to be promoted under the Franchise system, which is plainly not true. |
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| Quote: FevGrinder "However we do know, since they didn't meet the criteria of having 2,500 average attendance in a season, which was part of the criteria, which meant they couldn't apply. So by definition your assertion that Leigh could have been in SL two years earlier doesn't hold true.
However all of this just deflects from your initial point that it was easier to be promoted under the Franchise system, which is plainly not true.'"
Dog, bone, Dave.
Maybe they'd've given free tickets to all the school kids in the area for the last game and counted them whether they came or not.
Who knows ? |
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