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Quote: a.n Other "Your argument was based on figures you had just made up...... '"


Not at all. They are the figures proposed, including the new "parachute" payments. It does not mean that the proposals will not be amended.

Quote: a.n Other "Are you against the idea and if so why?'"


I am against the idea unless the finances are leveled out. I would consider it inevitable that the four better funded teams will finish in the top four and the two poorly funded teams will finish in the bottom two. What interest is there in that for spectators ?

The alternative scenario is that clubs will push the financial boat out to attempt to gain promotion. That could easily lead to more financial disasters and more than likely will.

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Quote: rickster "I do like the idea of splitting the divisions mid term but the funding and salary cap must be agreed first.
If the bottom four super league teams are full time and have a cap of £1.6m or whatever it is while the championship teams have a part time squad on whatever their cap is the playing field is not level is it ?'"


Exactly.

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It will be interesting to see if the eagles can defeat London who are probably the weakest super league team when they meet in the cc in a few weeks time.'"


Beating a $uperleague team in a one-off game proves nothing. In a league season, the better teams have bad days and the poorer teams have good ones. Yet, over the season, the better teams finish near the top and the poorer ones at the bottom. Extrapolating an Eagles win to justify promotion would be dangerous.

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Quote: griff1998 "Not at all. They are the figures proposed, including the new "parachute" payments. It does not mean that the proposals will not be amended.

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Do you have a link for that information? The Halifax chairman has said no figures have been agreed yet?

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Quote: a.n Other "Do you have a link for that information? The Halifax chairman has said no figures have been agreed yet?'"


'Cos it's not true if it's not on-line, eh ? icon_lol.gif No - got them out of our programme - £2.50 from the Eagles' offices.

I didn't say they had been agreed. I said proposed. So Mr Steele and I agree.

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Actually, it's not even about the money, is it ?

Suppose the RFL say that the top four clubs in the first phase Div 2 get their money made up to the same level as the $uperleague clubs. Who would you spend it on ? You won't know you're going to get this money until mid season - who's going to be available to sign who's better than you've already got in the squad ? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: griff1998 "'Cos it's not true if it's not on-line, eh ? No, I asked for a link as I hadn't seen anything published from the RFL about the money being proposed.

So you agree with our chairman? He says it's the best thing for our club and is backing it.

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Quote: a.n Other "No, I asked for a link as I hadn't seen anything published from the RFL about the money being proposed.

So you agree with our chairman? He says it's the best thing for our club and is backing it.'"


Yes - I agree with Mr Steele that nothing's been agreed. Except, of course that Mr Steele and I agree.

Look - this isn't as big an issue as you're making it. I'm just saying that it's not a good idea to say "Yay !! these new leagues will be fantastic!! Let's vote yes, yes, yes!!" before finding out what the financial arrangements will be.

If you disagree with that, fine. But don't complain if it turns out to be not as good as you thought.

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So, are we any nearer naming & shaming the heckler yet ?

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I heard a name yesterday but forgotten it now. No one I knew anyway

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Quote: griff1998 "Actually, it's not even about the money, is it ?

Suppose the RFL say that the top four clubs in the first phase Div 2 get their money made up to the same level as the $uperleague clubs. Who would you spend it on ? You won't know you're going to get this money until mid season - who's going to be available to sign who's better than you've already got in the squad ?
Maybe an important point concerning the money is being overlooked.

It is not automatically neccessary that you would have to sign someone better than the club allready has onboard.

Why not.

Part of the solution would have to do with make their current playing staff FULLTIME players as opposed to partime.

This would allow them to reach their full potential and quite a few of them would make the grade.

This would be where some of the extra money would have to go.

Anyone training and living in a fulltime enviroment must get better and would increase the number of quality players across the comp, contary to the view that standards would drop drastically in a reasonably short period of time the opposite would happen.

Even distribution of funding allowing more to go fulltime is key to resolving a number of issues.

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So .... would you give up your job for 14 weeks employment at a rugby league club with no guarantee of a full time job beyond that ?

Not being argumentative here - but these are the things players have to consider.

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Quote: griff1998 "So .... would you give up your job for 14 weeks employment at a rugby league club with no guarantee of a full time job beyond that ?

Not being argumentative here - but these are the things players have to consider.'"


Are not these the things full time players at every club currently and going back as far as you can think have allready considered?

If it was such a problem then there would hardly have been any full time players outside the top earners ever.

The alternative is to ask part timers to play regularly against full timers, how would that work out results wise in the long run.

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Quote: marillion man "So, are we any nearer naming & shaming the heckler yet ?'"

and what happened to the photo?

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Quote: faxcar "Are not these the things full time players at every club currently and going back as far as you can think have allready considered?

If it was such a problem then there would hardly have been any full time players outside the top earners ever.

The alternative is to ask part timers to play regularly against full timers, how would that work out results wise in the long run.'"


Being offered a contract for a couple of years and being offered one for 14 weeks are totally different animals.

Jobs not easy to come by round here. Is Halifax any better ? eusa_eh.gif

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