Whatever. It's becoming a bit embarrassing for you playing championship clubs. I hear Loughborough University are looking for a game.

How excited are you at getting soaked through when it rains and having ancient chunks of wood and metal landing on your head?

Getting soaked through is part and parcel of rugby league. I should be safe from falling objects in the railway end thanks. True maybe we should play championship 1 sides like wigan?

Maybe Wigan st pats, yeah.

Keep adding the super to "super" league old flower

We never lied to the RFL about the stadium. They have been fully aware that is was always conditional on us selling our ground.

As your former comments; I wasn't disputing that, I was explaining why the result was a close run thing.

Barring 5/6 of those (the majority of which went off after 20 mins and were replaced with youngsters) a lot of those are back up players. Clare and Channing are hardly experienced SL professionals and Gilmour has just come back from several months out. Owen will be 3rd choice winger behind Dixon and Carney.

Again, I wasn't saying it was YOUR fault nor have I ever suggested that. The team that started the game was 18-6 until changes occurred - then it all went Pete Tong.

I came on here in peace to discuss rugby, not looking for disgraceful insults. That is extremely sad from Fax fans I've always held in high esteem.

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion on the rugby. Not.

Didn't go today but happy with that as whilst it was only a friendly and first hit out you want to see some effort and co-ordination which is what it sounded like today whatever team Cas had out.
Lets not resort to insults guys come on Cas are a decent set of fans and whilst it is wrong they have not got a new stadium I am glad as I like Wheldon Road.

Quote: Brew "Cas fans complaining? It's been a genetic thing since thatcher waded in and shut the pits down! We could only play what was in front of us. KH said we were going to win, in that respect we failed. We took on what was in front of us, went two scores behind yet still got a draw, were we unlucky to concede at the end! Maybe, had tyrer kicked that conversion we'd have won. Both sides made mistakes that led to tries. As a testimonial and first RU. Out for both sides it was a good game. Must be said though how badly has the jungle delapidated? Sections of the end of the Main stand look to have blown away, home end now sponsored by plywood. We don't visit dumps like that in our league!'" In terms of your last comment, a lot of work is planned for the ground including the main stand. Our CEO Steve Gill has put a lot of effort into sorting out the ground. You can read more here www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3827. I hope this explains that we are taking steps, albeit trying to do as much as we can do to improve it for all fans. The WRE is plywood because the old sponsor hoardings have been taken down in readiness for the new sponsor hoardings to go on the top. Apologies that it wasn't perfect for your visit but these sorts of things are not done or changed overnight.

Quote: Brew "Cas fans complaining? It's been a genetic thing since thatcher waded in and shut the pits down! We could only play what was in front of us. KH said we were going to win, in that respect we failed. We took on what was in front of us, went two scores behind yet still got a draw, were we unlucky to concede at the end! Maybe, had tyrer kicked that conversion we'd have won. Both sides made mistakes that led to tries. As a testimonial and first RU. Out for both sides it was a good game. Must be said though how badly has the jungle delapidated? Sections of the end of the Main stand look to have blown away, home end now sponsored by plywood. We don't visit dumps like that in our league!'" In terms of your last comment, a lot of work is planned for the ground including the main stand. Our CEO Steve Gill has put a lot of effort into sorting out the ground. You can read more here www.castigers.com/article.php?id=3827. I hope this explains that we are taking steps, albeit trying to do as much as we can do to improve it for all fans. The WRE is plywood because the old sponsor hoardings have been taken down in readiness for the new sponsor hoardings to go on the top. Apologies that it wasn't perfect for your visit but these sorts of things are not done or changed overnight.

I had a great time at cas today. thanks to all involved

although it is a tinpot ground. just saying

Castleford Tigers - Grade C
Castleford Tigers provided a well presented and authored application, detailing realistic, intelligent and achievable strategies for future commercial and supporter growth. [sizeHowever the strategies and targets are to a degree based upon the move to a new facility in 2013.[/size At present Castleford are a well-run, sustainable club that lives within its means and produces above average numbers of Super League quality players. Whilst hamstrung by an inadequate facility, and the restrictions on commercial revenues and supporter base this causes, the club makes a good contribution to the Super League. Significant growth of the business is reliant upon the club moving to the proposed new stadium to enable further investment in management, first team squad and player production. [sizeThe significant challenge for the club in the next Licence period will be to move to the proposed new facility.[/size


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Congratulations for posting a small summary, which reinforces what I've said.

"are to a degree" and "proposed". To a degree implies that not all of the application was based on a new stadium but we illustrated the projections that we felt we could achieve should the new stadium go ahead.

"Proposed" - A mooted idea put forward but by no means guaranteed.

As I said, the new stadium was always based on us self-funding it and not relying on handouts from councils. The economy crashed in 2007 (care to remember), which meant that the land was no longer sufficient enough for housing as it wouldn't provide enough cash for us.

There was a blast licence in place from Hicksons which had to be removed before any application could be made for Wheldon Rd and this took several years to remove from our council.

And then, when we arranged for a supermarket to buy the stadium, their focus changed meaning that they were no longer willing to commit to buying the land at a speed we needed.

There have been a lot of factors outside of our control with the new stadium but only the naïve would accept that this was the ONLY criteria determining licences in Super League. I understand to an extent your bitterness but take a look at your club 3/4 years ago and be honest - did it really have the infrastructure in place to overtake someone like Cas (if I remember rightly you didn't have an academy?). Never in my book.

In fact, why don't we look at the good of Cas - our youth production? Our limited reliance on overseas players in comparison to other clubs...oh, and the fact we haven't got into financial issues unlike Bradford, Wakefield, London and Salford..

Never mind. Apologies for the thread drift but this 'you lied'+'stadia misconception' really gets on my goat from people who haven't a foggiest.

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Unfortunatley some of our fans have obsessions about other teams stadiums and the number of fans they have.

My point was that the team you put out contained a lot of players who will play a lot of games for you this season and was really just checking if that was the case as a couple of Cas fans I talked to only thought there were about 4 or 5 players to come in to the line up from yesterday. Players like Dorn and Channing I would expect to be playing a lot of games unlike the other Cas poster who seems to think they wont. I know you had eight players on the bench but we also made the same amount of changes and also a lot of players that came off did come back in to the game in the 2nd half so to make out we were just playing youngsters for the majority of the game was perhaps a bit misleading.

At times you could see the difference in quality as Cas showed their SL class to finsih chances one very similar to the one we bombed that would have won the game in the 2nd half although I would say that the Cas player who put him in to touch was so late that it was a clear penalty but hey ho. Anyway I thought it was an entertaining game that probably benefited us more than Cas but a draw was probably a fair result.