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| The day when we can talk about two teams going head to head testing each other’s ability is what I’m interested in . Today was about the man in pink , I’m glad I wasn’t there . Sick to death of corruption in society and sport whether it be football boxing or rugby. It would be nice to know who’s the best instead it’s all about some jobsworth in the middle , you want fans back call us the Halifax gimps for all I care , 18 years of no chance of super league has nothing to do with what goes on between two sides on the pitch, it’s refs and politics , do one , spread your butter as thin as you like , your toast tastes dry.
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| Haven’t watched the game back yet but a few quick bullet point first thoughts are.
Ref. Not so much for this game just sad for the game in general when there’s so much time money and effort spent by everyone else and that’s the best we can expect on a regular basis for all teams depending on which way the wind blows.
Teams. It was hot out there in the middle today and all 34 gave it their best shot and deserve a clap or two.
We didn’t have many chances and those we did Fev's defense was outstanding with Fax too not far behind them.
Woody's disallowed try, from where I was stood behind the posts at that end it wasn’t a knock on, it was grounded just short of the line and I had a pretty good view of it.
Injuries, a couple had ones for concern and the majority of the rest knew they had been in a game and will have their fair share of bumps and bruises to prove it.
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| I watched the game on Our League, and the JWH effort looked like it was well on the line as it was grounded. A roll forward a few inches (no separation or second movement) and it was easily a try from any angle. 12 points effectively for that, given they went straight up the other end and scored. Disregarding that, it certainly wasn't a knock on. Possibly a slight separation on the way down, but a firm hold on the ball as it hit the ground. They showed it lots of times on the stream!
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| Some observations - We lacked quality in the halves
1. JWH was a try - Brown's was a margin call at best. Significant momentum swing.
2. Broke them a few times but couldn't convert.
3. Fev were missing a few but crucially, they still had their 1,6,7 and 9.
4. Our last play options were dire, coupled with ill-discipline meant we couldn't really establish any form of territory or pressure.
5. Do we ever attack down Worthington's edge?
6. I think Barber is a very skilful player but I'm not convinced he is a centre. Lacks pace.
7. Crucial period in the season. In the next 8 games, we SHOULD be winning at least 7 if not all 8, if we want to be really finishing in the Top 4.
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| Forgot to add, going into the game, for us to be competitive was my hope and I think we did that. Grix is probably proving me wrong at the moment as I really thought he had lost it after the showing at Oldham. All things being equal, we should continue to improve.
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| Im not sure which was funnier, Tom Grant's performance or Lawrence Turners.
Im only kidding about the ref it was defo Lawrence Turner's I mean what was he thinking. End of the day you do not speak to your customers like they are something that you just trod in. He has made a complete ass of himself no matter what his intensions, it looks like he needs to keep himself up in his cushty little box where he can flout any covid rules he likes and stay away from the real people.
On to the game I just thought Fev had that little bit extra quality which they should have given the size of their squad and their likely spend compared to ours. The Woody try will be an interpretation rule as he deffo looked short to begin with. A couple more went against us but at the end of the day we struggled to break them down and our halves looked poor, when we did break them down in what should have been an easy try instead of been 8-6 up we were 12-2 behind 2 plays later.
listening to Grix's interview after its going to mean the return of Scott Grix next week because apparently we lacked a leader although I thought we lacked a leader when he has played but hey ho. Woody will no doubt be dropped despite showing some of his best form that he has for Fax or at least moved in the halves where he has never really shown much for us. Robinson is probably going to miss anyway so that probably helps Grix decision but we are crying out for some quality in those 2 positions. Another ridiculous decison dropping Burrough because he didn't have the best of games up at Newcastle, yesterday would have been just the sort of game for him. We saw how much space Moore got and Burrough is twice as quick as him so once again it just seems a very random decision.
Big games coming up now like has been said. We must win the majority of them to be thinking about the top 6.
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Im not sure which was funnier, Tom Grant's performance or Lawrence Turners.
Was just going to start a topic on Mr Turner. Wasn’t at the game but saw the posts on social media. They did not look good at all (admittedly, any slant can be put on things with social media).
There did appear to be some arrogance and contempt for the fan(s). Where does he go from here? A poorly worded/badly spelled press release? An attack on the fans? Brushing it under the carpet? Or does he fall on his sword? Either way, we’re knackered cos I can’t see any saviour rushing in to rescue the club……
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| Quote: freddies wig "Was just going to start a topic on Mr Turner. Wasn’t at the game but saw the posts on social media. They did not look good at all (admittedly, any slant can be put on things with social media).
There did appear to be some arrogance and contempt for the fan(s). Where does he go from here? A poorly worded/badly spelled press release? An attack on the fans? Brushing it under the carpet? Or does he fall on his sword? Either way, we’re knackered cos I can’t see any saviour rushing in to rescue the club……'"
Crucial point Freddie, off the field the BOD have and are working their butts off and there is no one else waiting in the wings. and for the first game back after 14 months yesterdays PR performance
These are the facts if they go the club goes.
If they stay it will take time before we can compete with the clubs that are financially better off than us off the field.
It will take time before we can pay for the better players so we can compete with those same clubs on the field.
For the first game back after 14 months yesterdays PR performance could have gone better, the fans with CMBC and LT's response with the fans.
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| Sorry, what's the issue with LT? Wasn't at the game - not even in the country. Don't make yourself libelous if wish to let me know.
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| To be fair, watching it back again and reading comments. Seems LT was trying to deal with any issue with rule breaking with one eye on Calderdale council keeping the shay open and ensuring income. Got heated on both sides. I could be wrong though
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| Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Im not sure which was funnier, Tom Grant's performance or Lawrence Turners.
I cant disagree with any of that i will leave the LT incident alone for now i was stood about 10 yards away and i think you summed it up pretty well with what happened. As for the game i thought it would be a high scoring game but i got that wrong defences were on top i thought we held our own pretty well in the forwards and was surprised to see bourough not in the side i think he could of caused fev a lot of problems around the ruck with is pace and direct running something i think moore lacks he seems to want to run threw men rather than in to space and there was some space in that area fev seemed to defend tight out wide and rushed in to shut plays down which they did really well and we didn't take the right options at the right times giving short balls when we should have gone wide and vice verse that for me was the difference between the sides when fev moved the ball it looked crisp and threatening were we seemed indecisive and our ball players seemed hesitant in what they did they didn't have the same conviction in there plays and you will struggle to have much joy against a good defence like fevs playing like that harris inparticular looked to lack confidence he seems to be defending better but is attack seems to lack conviction i thought russell did play with conviction until he got hit late by davies a player who i rate very highly is left arm was just hanging by his side and he struggled with that for the rest of the game hopefully he can shake it of for next week as for the ref i think the penalty count was 10-3 in fevs favour weather that was justified or not i think good refs should be seen but not heard ie not the centre of attention the game isn't about them but some of them do seem to enjoy the attention as for the top six the margin for error gets tighter by the week the pressure is on grix to delver and the players
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| Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.
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| The life of a chairman can be lonely and thankless. I can understand why LT was frustrated. An unprecedented year spent sorting out the old boards mess , and marching through the pandemic. Endless meetings with akward Cmbc. You finally get a game with spectators and within minutes " idiots" ignore the rules because they think they know better and it starts unravelling . It's at that point that other members of the board should have stepped up and helped lawrence out of the hole he was digging rather than disappear to their own social media keyboards . Lawrence will now know who is rowing the boat with him and who is not. My view is lawrence has the fortitude to recognise how he can improve for the future and also root out any rats that may be still on the ship.
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| Quote: The Phantom Horseman "Just listened to the post-game interviews with Grix, I thought you guys played pretty well overall and it was a good contest but Grix has kind of thrown Harris and Woodburn Hall under the bus there hasn't he, think you're going to see his brother back at full back soon for sure.'"
scott as looked better in the couple of games he as played this season but overall is performances since rejoining us in 2019 have shown to me he is not the answer simon seems to think he is and he is good at throwing players under the bus but never taking any blame himself
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