Dews are not a bad side , I predicted a Dews win , and get no pleasure from being right , it isn't all over yet , but your results must improve very soon , you don't need me to tell you that , but it can change , maybe KH is not the man to do it , I don't know , but again your BOD must act very soon .Halifaxjohn , I hope to see you soon , and some of my other Fax Friends .

Charlie knows. We all do!

BONUS POINT RUGBY. Reading this thread It makes me wonder if some of the contributors actually go and watch the games or do they get their information from the Courier website or from Radio Smarmy.
If they go to the games, it might be an idea to take off their rose tinted glasses during the match. Then they could see the drab, dreary, dull, dismal, dire and dreadful defensive rugby that the rest of us have to endure.
Declining attendences tell a tale, post match interviews tell another. A coach instructing his team to take a kick at goal from the centre spot with an out of confidence goalkicker, scores tied and 18 minutes to play, tells yet another. I have been watching Halifax regularly for many, many years. During this time I have seen some great coaches.......Les Pearce, Maurice Bamford & Chris Anderson to name a few. There have also been some poor coaches.....Jim Crellin, Ross Strudwick & Steve Sims spring to mind. Ask yourself honestly which category KH falls into ....and try not to let nostalgia and sentiment rule your head.
If the rumour that KH has been given a new three year contract is true, then call the nurse because Mr Croad is out of bed again !

It's more a case of being realistic than being happy.

Fax are not the best side at the moment and it's not just down to the coach, the other sides haven't just stood still.

Todays opponents, Dewsbury are a much better side than they were 3 years ago, they along with everyone else want to win games just as much as we do, there not going let us turn up and walk over them regardless of who the coach is.

Todays game after saying it's going to be close and too hard to call with the lead changing hands on several occasions and ends up with 2 points in it why are we surprised at the result?

There are a few very experienced coaches in this division who's teams are not exactly doing anything special.

When KH took over the club it was partly because of fans calling for Calland's head even though we were the second best club in the division, still not good enough.

It was Calland hasn't got a clue, he's rubbish bring in KH look what he has done at Batley, trust in KH, trust in the Rhino. How different now.

The point being.

The BOD probably listened then but now know even when the coach is replaced who can predict his successor would be any better?
Maybe they do know what they are doing based on past experience and are thinking long and hard at the options.

Only Leigh and Fev are clearly better than the rest at the moment and they have spent a lot more than Fax have to get there, outside of these any of the remaining contenders can get the result on any given day against each other.

Will the investment of the big spending 2 show dividends, there's no guarantee.

The truth will be seen when the teams merging form SL and Championship kicks in next year when the big spending Leigh and Fev come up against the SL sides, the SL teams still have a significant advantage.

If Leigh and Fev fail it could come back to bite them big time and it would be the same for us, maybe not as bad as it seems to see how it works out over the next year or so.

Can anyone honestly see a Harrison team beating the two relegated St teams? I can't. We have gone backwards and I think we are back to where we were before Hall and Callander came along. I would rather take a chance on another coach than accept poor standards for another three years.

Calland and hall had a much bigger budget than Karl and if fans stay away then next year the budget will be smaller! Stop moaning and get behind the team! This is sport and nobody has a right to win you have to earn it! I will be there good or bad because it's my team!
We are not out of the race yet and games won or lost in the last seconds are thrilling ! Sometimes it goes your way but today it didn't !!! We will be back ask Charlie!!!

Your board will never sack Harrison unless you're bottom of the league. In short, they're scared of him. It's that simple. He's a Rasputin-esque figure.

Totally agree - whatever we think about KH we need to get behind the team. We have some cracking players who are busting a gut - IMO it will stat to come good.

I never once called for Calland out, but I have had enough of watching a team playing with no confidence at all.

The club is in freefall. Fans are fed up, so they stay away. Smaller budget next season, smaller squad playing against ex Superleague teams and top 2 championship teams, with larger budgets, more downward spiral.

Unfortunately as much as others shout for everyone to get behind their team, people are not going to turn up and pay to watch this type of rugby, therefore the only people who can turn this around is the BOD.

Problem is, it's a vicious cycle where everyone loses.

I'm not going anymore until things change, but things can't change if people stop going because the BOD can't do it on their own.
The end result is the free fall happens quicker with little chance of recovery.

There are no guarantees even if the club did change things it would be for the better, only after the event would anyone know, some would gamble, some wouldn't.

The problems Fax are facing are affecting most of the other clubs with their BOD's and coaching staff, are they all rubbish or is it still a sign of difficult times?

For a player confidence for example comes from a number of areas.

As a player or players off the field.

If the BOD pay them their wages on time and give them the support as an organisation they don't have to worry about that side of the game, the players have confidence in that area.

Our BOD have done that. When the BOD with the above in mind after having bank rolled the club from their own pockets with no hope of ever seeing their money back and hear what is being said about them by some of their own supporters this above all else will undermine their resolve and this comes from the terraces not the board room.

As a player or players on the field.

When a player or players busts there gut but still ends up on the losing side he his suffering enough, especially if he has contributed in some way to the loss by a dropped ball or missed kick.

When these guys hear what is being said about them from their some of there own supporters this above all else will undermine their confidence and that comes from the terraces not the board room.

Cards on the table and looking myself in the eye when I say it, I honestly think we are still in the mind set of being some sort of sleeping giant club that is too good for the Championship and we should not be losing to Dewsbury, Batley etc and when we do we can't handle it so blame someone else, the BOD the coach, the players.

It's been a constant theme over the last few years regardless of who the BOD are or who the Coach or players are whenever we lose for us to slag someone off and the BOD should produce this magic wand or solution instantly or else.

Reality is, even if we once were a giant, which is debatable in 2014 we definitely aren't and this downward spiral is likely to continue with everyone in some way contributing to it.

Stop moaning......? Please and if you think that anything we currently dish out is thrilling you are sadly deluded. I agree no team has a good given right to win but we do have a rich recent history that says we should be challenging. Fans are walking away in droves, KH plays distinctly poor one man rugby, our marketing and communication to fans is the poorest it's ever been and the attitude seems to be if we bury our heads in the sand it might be ok. Sorry but if that is our ambition the club is truly in freefall. The side looks devoid of leadership, ideas and we have a coach who changes a side more often than he changes his socks. Partnerships and understanding don't get made nor does confidence. Strange selection choices, poor player attraction in the main or decent players who sign for Fax and become overnight flops......? The rugby on show is drab, boring and KH has taken us backwards......? I look forward to your lecture Mr Windsor yarnman.

What so we just accept it....? Look at the history of the club and it is a sleeping giant as are one or two more in our league. However our recent history is more impressive than many of these clubs: SL founder and ever present until 2003 , challenge cup winner within this generation, league champions etc. Admittedly recent history not so illustrious but nevertheless Grand Finals and NRC winners say we've done ok. Crowds were improving andwe had a decent fan base to play with of 2k plus. The only downside was we underachieved at times with arguably the best squad in the league and that was Callands failing along with off field issues and our tendancy to not defend.
KH comes on board and dissects an exciting brand of rugby for his brand of boring rugby and assembles a side who in 3 years loses half its fan base. You seem to think we should just blindly pay £15 without question and put up with this rubbish....? These are hard times and money is tough still for many, blind loyalty is no longer the foregone conclusion it once delivered but value for money and entertainment are now a huge part of the equation. Neither of which I feel we get from the club. I've been through lots in 30 plus years following this club and stood through some dire moments but I've never felt so fed up or disassociated by the club. We seem rudderless and lacking leadership across all levels of the club.
Never has the demise of the club felt so real, change is needed across the whole club but I don't see it happening or realistic sadly.