cheap shot by a dirty basterd who should get fined and banned

Lets just make one massive distinction, TOUGH is different to DIRTY.
What Haggerty did was not TOUGH it was DIRTY.

Said, Makali, Watene et al are tough not DIRTY.

Carry on.

I think those are fair distinctions mate but I would also make the distinction that Haggerty is not typically a dirty player. His actions on Sunday belie this fact and I think most are surprised that it was this player involved.
For whatever reason, and personally I think he had a few without condoning the hit, he lost his temper and his aggression boiled over from acceptable levels.

You can guarantee one thing though....
following the match on Sunday Halifax will be instructed to go out there and try and rile us on Thursday night. I'm sure Calland will have pointed to one or two players in our side that might lose their heads. Expect some 'aggressive' play and few angels on that pitch from either side.

In defence of Turley he went to his linesman on more than one occasion for clarification, notably the 'try', the drop out and the awful shot by Haggerty, which should see a 7 game ban for intent. That assault was that late I would imagine Turley saw it in the corner of his eye as the ball was miles away.

Anyway I hope you knock seven bells out of each other tomorrow, I understand the Widnes pack think they can bully yours all over the park, in which case Black hides and Widnes rack the points up.

So one shot defines a career? Players like Rob Roberts IMO are dirty as all they offer is cheap shots and constant mouthing off at people. The others are 'enforcers' who unfotunately once or twice cross a line. I've seen young Widnes lads booted in the head off the ball and less fuss be made tbh! I expect a 3 game ban and righly.

Apparently Barlow spat at Haggerty priot to that play the ball and he gave him a good whack in return.

You can feel his full force before his ban.

I've not seen this one but Jeremy Smith has got a 2 match ban and £300 fine for use of the elbow on Danny Orr; www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1674 I'm not sure if Haggy has [iprevious[/i but he genuinely doesn't seem like a thuggish type of player IMO. May be some substance in the spitting allegations (pardon the pun)! as I've never seen him act like this before and he seems if anything a bit daft on the field - laughing and joking with opposition players. I know if someone had spat at me I'd be rather displeased to say the least. If there was no spitting then it's a different matter again.

I've not seen this one but Jeremy Smith has got a 2 match ban and £300 fine for use of the elbow on Danny Orr; www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1674 I'm not sure if Haggy has [iprevious[/i but he genuinely doesn't seem like a thuggish type of player IMO. May be some substance in the spitting allegations (pardon the pun)! as I've never seen him act like this before and he seems if anything a bit daft on the field - laughing and joking with opposition players. I know if someone had spat at me I'd be rather displeased to say the least. If there was no spitting then it's a different matter again.

The RFL' discplinary pannel has never made sense tbh alwyas differing in punishments for same 'crimes' etc.

One example... Kav got red for elbow use and that was deemed sufficient punishment. Yet Roberts went up on same charge and got off scott free? So why was Kavanagh red carded etc?

I don't think he should be getting a lengthy ban, because from what you've been saying he's had no previous issues. But he shouldn't be allowed to play the week after the incident.

If he has no previous then they may give him a 3 or 4 match ban with part or all of the ban suspended.

I think though that he will probably get a part suspended ban as no punishment was carried out on the field against the player. Maybe a 4 match ban with 2 suspended or even a 3 match ban with 2 suspended.

I agree that the disciplinary should sit in the week following the alleged transgression - others may just think you're running scared and want him banned before he smashes your pack to pieces

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He'll eat Shirley and Tampons for his supper.