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| A sad time for Rugby League. I honestly fear for it's future in the Championship and below. Do we really think that the SL clubs will let in clubs tarred with the trouble brush? We may tick all the boxes but something like this sticks more in the memory than the result. Do we think a charity tag rugby match will do much to rebuild bridges? I'm in two minds on that, but, it is a step in the right direction.
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| Well at least it`s a small positive step which is a start , maybe get some ex players involved especialy anyone who played for both clubs eg Martin Pearson.
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| I wasn't at the game. I'm not in the country so haven't seen any highlights or anything about what happened after the game. All I know is what I've read on here. As a Fax fan I can completely understand why our supporters are upset and angry at events that followed what was a great result for us. Especially considering the recent history between our clubs. But from reading the posts Fev supporters are too. They don't want their club to be known more for what goes on off the field instead of on it.
It is ok saying bridges need to be built - gingdong the idea of a tag team match to raise money for Dave is a great one. And it's a start. But the main work needs to be done by the clubs (I am using the plural cos i don't know who started the trouble - if Fax fans were to blame we need to sort that - I have read accusations on here that both sets of fans were responsible).
Until progress can be made then all fans posting on here need to work together to keep RL a family game. Let the police and clubs do the work that needs to be done to identify the trouble makers. Until then can we all just agree that what happened Thursday was once again a terrible end to what i'm sure was a great game (land back in Manchester 10ish Wednesday morning - match to be viewed approx midday as soon as I set foot in the door!). It doesn't matter how many times people say it was Fev's fault or it was Fax's fault - it doesn't change what happened, people keep going round in circles with their posts and it just means the decent fans are sniping at each other - really not what is needed at this time.
Fev fans - unlucky to come out the wrong end of a close result like that again. Hopefully you're all proud of your teams efforts and you can keep going in the league this season.
Fax fans - onwards and upwards - blackpool here we come!!!!
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| I'm still hurting from the result, and the way I felt walking back to my car after the match was like I was in a dream. I was really down, and although I can't think of a single way I would ever grow a punch to any fan, I think both sets of fans need to stop the verbal abuse towards each other. Booze + heart wrenching defeat + opposing fans sticking the verbal boot in leads to a bad situation. This is not an excuse, and I am not laying blame at fax fans at all as both sets of fans had a part to play in this.
I am also considering whether to come to the shay again next season, as animosity between both sets of fans is bad enough, but I'm not gong to put £18 + Into a club whose fans hold ALL fev fans with such low disregard. I've been going to the shay since we were promoted and I always liked the club. I always liked fax after two of your fans stood with me and supported fev at the championship grand final last year, however if fax fans are going to vote with their feet and not bother coming to our ground, then I will choose to do the same.
I am still in shock about what's happened, and although I didn't see it with my own eyes I've watched the video on you tube and it makes me feel sick. I have never seen any trouble until this season.
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| As i Featherstone Rovers fan for many years i now take my better half and my two daughters 11 and 13 to the games. I would love to see us meet in the playoff and see a crowd off 2500+ watch the game and when it ended all go home and discuss it on the forums. I like many others have no problem with Halifax as a club and the majority of there fans. What does make me annoyed is when i read that fans will not come to support their team because of some people who are out of control at the matches. I then come on here hoping to read that someone has caught these people (i was at the match in the family stand and left at the back so didnt see any trouble) and reported it but instead read comments like
Fax4life It would be best not to go again untill it settles down (Dont let them stop you)
jeffvickers It seams all the decent fans sit in the main stand ( Not true)
wereutherein Dont go thats my answer ( Dont let them stop you)
pinballwizzard I will never put another penny into that shizzlehole of a dump and THEY WONT BE WELCOME TO THE SHAY ( Unbelievable )
jonnyfreemanfanclub Some fax fans that attended to support their team and were attacked by fev fans from behind (cannot comment as i didnt see the incident )
I hope that these people whether FEV or FAX are found and photos put on for all to see then if we see them in the ground we can have them removed.
I would hope that as many Fax fans as possible would come on here or our forum with constructive ideas of what they would want the Featherstone club to do to make them feel safe if we meet again this season. I know the answer is ban the ones that have caused the problem and has been said it looks like they may of been video this time but reading some of these comments i think you will want more to be done to come back to Fev
Pinballwizzard i dont know if you put what you did in anger but i hope you and many others would make my family welcome at the shay the next time we play you
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| Quote: Birchy "I'm still hurting from the result, and the way I felt walking back to my car after the match was like I was in a dream. I was really down, and although I can't think of a single way I would ever grow a punch to any fan, I think both sets of fans need to stop the verbal abuse towards each other. Booze + heart wrenching defeat + opposing fans sticking the verbal boot in leads to a bad situation. This is not an excuse, and I am not laying blame at fax fans at all as both sets of fans had a part to play in this.
I am also considering whether to come to the shay again next season, as animosity between both sets of fans is bad enough, but I'm not gong to put £18 + Into a club whose fans hold ALL fev fans with such low disregard. I've been going to the shay since we were promoted and I always liked the club. I always liked fax after two of your fans stood with me and supported fev at the championship grand final last year, however if fax fans are going to vote with their feet and not bother coming to our ground, then I will choose to do the same.
I am still in shock about what's happened, and although I didn't see it with my own eyes I've watched the video on you tube and it makes me feel sick. I have never seen any trouble until this season.'"
I hadnt seen the you tube film, so because you mentioned it I thought I would have a look. What an absolute waste of time the video was, it showed absolutley nothing and certainly didnt indicate who was at fault, if anyone, in fact it was just a case of the person who put this on has done this just to keep the issue going, someone even posted saying that it showed that Halifax fans are a bunch of to$$ers, what on earth was he watching??
Utter rubbish. People need to make their own minds up about whether they go to Post office road anymore or whether the fev fans will come to the shay.
I have made my own mind up.
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| Quote: jtfev "
I would hope that as many Fax fans as possible would come on here or our forum with constructive ideas of what they would want the Featherstone club to do to make them feel safe if we meet again this season.'"
I agree, it is obvious to me now that we do have a problem and I would like us to tackle it. Fax fans have been quite rightly quick to slag our club off on this forum. They now have a chance to put ideas accross with regards to making them feel welcome again.
Over to you Fax fans, any suggestions would be welcome!
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| Jt, I've put what I have put due to my experience over many years. I will not go anymore to por. Not out of boycott, because I don't want to get my bald head stowed in. A few Fev fans have come here pleading to make things better, and saying they would welcome us. Thing is, I've not experienced this from Fev fans, only spitting swearing intimidating bullies. It's all a little horse, gate bolted job. The good Fev fans have had their chance. Why would I go put of my way to welcome a set of fans that have done everything to make my own fellow fans unwelcome? This is my opinion, built on years of experience...guess its my problem though, eh?
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| Quote: Birchy "I am also considering whether to come to the shay again next season, as animosity between both sets of fans is bad enough, but I'm not gong to put £18 + Into a club whose fans hold ALL fev fans with such low disregard'"
I've heard numerous fans suggest similar Brichy. I even alluded to it myself a while ago.
I think it's a poor do if that's what it's come to - BUT, I really can understand those sentiments, I really can!
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| Sadly, it might be that segregation is the best option. And, if the changing of ends is still to be allowed, then one set of fans must only go behind the main stand and the other set behind the other stand meaning that they do not interact. That may be a problem with fans in the main stands. A sweep of the lane behind the bottom terrace where fans leave by the stewards/police to prevent any outside antagonists. Better stewarding; I've heard it said from fans of both teams that the current crop of stewards are 'inept' at best. (Not my words.) Club representatives of both teams seen to be interacting and standing with the fans to get a first hand view of it all.
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| Would not consider going unless the match was a big one which was not on sky. Sad as it sounds its probably a good idea not to wear a fax shirt
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| Quote: Birchy "I am also considering whether to come to the shay again next season, as animosity between both sets of fans is bad enough, but I'm not gong to put £18 + Into a club whose fans hold ALL fev fans with such low disregard.'"
We all hold ALL your fans in low regard, do we? I have to disagree there, fella. But, it is your choice, and you are entitled to it.
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| Quote: gingdong "You know out of all the people that post on here you annoy me the most, Just after the grand final the then Rovers director Martin Overton posted on here about getting some kind of fans charter for the next time we played to try and nip in the bud any bad feeling, he did it with the best of intentions, he got slated for it and one of the worst was YOU. The bloke was genuinely trying his best and thats what this thread is about but again gets turned into a slagging match, so why dont we keep to the title and try and think of a way forward.
What about a fans tag match before the next game, or even all forum posters meet in a pub for a drink and a chat before the next game, there must be some people with good ideas out there, lets talk about them'"
Just to clarify I was not a director then, just a very concerned supporter like I am now. I was a Director from December until a couple of weeks ago. Not long I know!
We need to unite as I said on the other thread... I think a tag game is a very good idea. I am certainly up for it.... but let's mix the teams. None of this is about us and them.
I would also just like to point out that the club are trying. I was on the board when we did put in place extra measures for the league game. Widely criticised on here, but applauded by Neil Arbour (sorry if the spelling is wrong).
Also, the other night the Featherstone CEO was in the middle of it all pleading with people to stop, putting his own well being at risk. I beleive he then boarded the Halifax supporters bus to speak to people. Of course this never gets mentioned, but be assured that he will do everything possible to find out and severly punish those who were involved on Thursday night.
Finding proof has always been the problem to routing out the bad eggs. I think we have now reached a watershed. I have seen a change in Featherstone Fans this week and I am sure they will start speaking out and giving names to the club and police.
I wish every Fax fan well, actually they are a team I have a soft spot for, since my first Wembley visit as a young lad in 1988 and being sat amongst the Fax fans. The atmosphere lives with me to this day.
If I make it to the final, I hope to see some of you there, where beleive it or not I will be cheering for a Yorkshire team that plays in Blue and White against them from over the hills who wear red.
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| Quote: Tortured Soul "We all hold ALL your fans in low regard, do we? I have to disagree there, fella. But, it is your choice, and you are entitled to it.'"
If you were to read pinball wizard's quotes you would imagine you were wading into bagdad when you came to featherstone. This trouble is recent and has only been an issue since the grand final.
I know it's bad RFF but I can't be going there when I have been tarred with the same brush as those idiots. It hurts the clubs and the sport, but if they are draining money from my club, then I'm only giving my to the members of the rugby league 'family' who support us. I go to every away match apart from toulose, but I seriously doubt I'll be driving to the shay until things return to normal between the clubs. I'm so angry about the whole event, but I'm even more angry with the venomous 'let's have a dig at fev' bandwagon that's arrived. We should be celebrating a great 2 year rivalry not staying away but I can't in good faith strengthen the coffers of fax while they weaken ours.
Best of it is I don't even live in Fev but i drive in from sheffield to see rovers play.
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| Fair do's Birchy - I do understand mate! There is a growing number of right minded folk I know who are intending to do exactly the same as yourself re future games at the Shay.
Unfortunately mate, it's right folk that are the ones making the decision to stay away - and for exactly the same reason! Sad. Very sad.
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