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Quote: Making Plans 4 Nigel "First post, Fax fan for over 25 years etc. I go to games week in week out with justthebasicfax (a loyal supporter) and now that the 'inner circle' have patted themselves on the back and told each other what a great job they do, I just thought that I'd give my two penneth from the (ever dwindling) terraces.

The questions was two parts, first of which asked the forum if they could remember the last player who improved after coming to this club and secondly if the backroom staff could do with 'freshin up'. No one can doubt the good intentions of people who for years give their time up, for example the 'outed malfax aged 73', but a genuine question from the terraces is (apart from the utter garbage we watch weekly) do we need to take down the pictures of Chris Anderson, ban all 86 and 87 reunions and get some new blood in.

Surely we could pack any number of fatties off to Keighley and what we save on wages get people in with no baggage and stop that bloke writing in the Evening Courier about that time when they stopped off at some place for fish and chips and they left Hilda behind zzzzzzzz.

You might think its great in the hospitality boys and girls but the fans are completely turned off.

p.s Message to the board - do you really want to trust KH with signing new players for next year?'"


Firstly, may I say welcome to the forum
Secondly, may I say Goodbye

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Quote: halifaxjohn "Firstly, may I say welcome to the forum
Secondly, may I say Goodbye'"


That's harsh, this is an open forum and people are entitled to their own opinion, I partly agree with what they are saying as one problem Fax have is that when people criticise (hopefully fairly) they get told to shut up.
Now as I said before the club need to learn lessons from what people say and especially they need to look after the sponsors like they are royalty, but they don't from what I hear!

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yes harsh.He makes a good point about KH im concerned about
next years recruitment too.

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Quote: Fax4Life "Now as I said before the club need to learn lessons from what people say and especially they need to look after the sponsors like they are royalty, but they don't from what I hear!'"


Go on then, what have you heard? How can anyone "learn" if you don't tell?

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Blimey its like a witch hunt on here. One thing I keep hearing is that we all wanted Rhino and now we are moaning when we got him, well I can tell you my little group wasn't too keen on his appointment. Im sure he's a good man and a fax player legend but I just don't think he's right for Fax and I hate the old ex legend comes back thing. It rarely works. It was mentioned he can take teams to a certain point and then no more, that's a lot to do with his style.

How you can make rugby boring I'll never know, its bloody rugby, its naturally entertaining, you pass the ball. To make a team boring to watch takes a lot of effort.

Will we hear the it doesn't matter now it matters at play off time when we've been dumped out the play offs at the first hurdle as we went into them with no winning momentum or confidence due to crap performances and results beforehand.

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Quote: Fax4Life "That's harsh, this is an open forum and people are entitled to their own opinion, I partly agree with what they are saying as one problem Fax have is that when people criticise (hopefully fairly) they get told to shut up.
Now as I said before the club need to learn lessons from what people say and especially they need to look after the sponsors like they are royalty, but they don't from what I hear!'"


I' sorry but that's how I felt.
Take down pictures of Chris Anderson, forget 86, 87 and 88.
O.k then, empty the trophy cabinet, take down the Hall of Fame, in fact get rid of the name "Halifax Rugby League Football Club" lets try?, Halifax Newsocks.
That should do it.
Here,s to the future.
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I've not posted for a few days, I've been a little bit busy with far more serious matters than massaging the bruised egos of certain posters. and nor should I feel the need to justify a question to every man or woman and their dog.

But here goes anyway.

Malcolm, I am equally disappointed at your negative reaction and creating a post specifically aimed at me, the post was not directly or solely aimed at you, if you took personal offence then I am sorry you feel that way, note, I am sorry you feel that way! I'm not sure some of the inner circle would give up positions held within the club just like that though, or genuinely deem it in the Clubs best interests to pass on the baton, for some it has become a way of life, but in essence the point about people needing to step forward and take responsibility and pressure off some people is one I wholeheartedly support. It would however be quite wrong to assume any moral high ground by you or anyone by stating what you have done for the club, or what you have charged, a great many people have assisted the club over the years in many different ways, if someone gave their last pound or their first £100,000 I would not judge one morally inferior to the other, for some it has been time and/or services, and others its been their own personal finances in different degrees

Littlerich, let me get this right, you're requesting private information of a new poster be cross referenced with another poster who agrees some sentiments? are you for real? and with no authority, clearly a poor understanding of Data Protection or evidence of anything, other than they do not share the same opinions as you? I'd also like to point out that everyone on here has a 'first post', I would hardly see it as suspicious because they have an 'opinion' .

Tonyfax, a standard reply, next!

It's noticeable how many have come out of the shadows and have shown they think they are above any criticism, but are quite happy to spend endless evenings criticising other posters, their own team, the coaching staff, the RFL, SL or the Championship etc. Its been an interesting exercise if nothing else, and does highlight a few things..

I've watched Fax for approaching 30 years, overseas and UK, I've been treated to some brilliant away days, by opposing Clubs and Directors and have had some truly fantastic times and met some great people. Just recently I was very encouraged to see how approachable and public facing the Leigh Directors and staff were, a philosophy that Ian Millward reinvigorated many years ago at Hilton Park, I've seen this in France also, and at many other clubs in our own competition and I have to be honest, and brutally so, the experience has on occasions left me feeling more valued as a customer at RL rivals than at my own Club. I still think we have a lot of work to do and fall a long way short of being the true Community Club that we aspire to be, I still see far too many young fans with Halifax links and post codes being absorbed into other RL clubs, People on here can say what they like, massage egos, pat each others back, lick their wounds, hug each other, arrange a pint, tell people how much they love each other, but perhaps you ought to take a look around the stands on Match day, look across the same faces doing the same jobs, and observe the terraces are emptier than for many years, and consider the following, can we just carry on as we are we?

I won't feel the need to hide or create a new account to pat myself on the back, or look for some loving words from Avatars or Virtual Friends, as to be quite honest the numbers don't lie, clearly more and more people are finding other things to do, and I won't be responding to individual questions on a regular basis, I simply don't have the time or the inclination, If people genuinely want the best for the Club then I would start with an honest assessment of what were doing and what were trying to achieve, and simply answering the same thing we've always done and at the same cost , might actually be raising an interesting point! the Club needs to move forward, nobody is bigger than the Club.

Oh and seems as though nobody really answered the questions, and the above should cover Q2, I can formally release my own personal opinion on who I think has improved on the playing front over the last two years, nobody!

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I agree with your last words,but the issue here is the problems
we have at fax are not related to who runs the shop,washes kit,
take photos etc etc.

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Quote: mr t hall "I agree with your last words,but the issue here is the problems
we have at fax are not related to who runs the shop,washes kit,
take photos etc etc.'"


I`m not sure that his origional observations were directed at volunteers , some of the things in the last post of justthebasicfax I can have some empathy with and as someone who has followed Fax for nearly 60 yrs I will just say that "if you don`t even recognise that there may be a problem then how on earth are we ever going to fix it ".Isn`t anyone looking at the crowds for instance ? so he may have ruffled a few feathers so what , maybe he could have been talking about me ? Well I`ll take it, I`m not so precious that I can`t accept opinions other than the norm` it is time to take a step back and take a look at the club without our rose tinted spectacles on . I would love people like him to join the Supporters Trust and run with a few of any ideas he can come up with as like him I am worried about dwindleing terrace supporters.

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "I`m not sure that his origional observations were directed at volunteers , some of the things in the last post of justthebasicfax I can have some empathy with and as someone who has followed Fax for nearly 60 yrs I will just say that "if you don`t even recognise that there may be a problem then how on earth are we ever going to fix it ".Isn`t anyone looking at the crowds for instance ? so he may have ruffled a few feathers so what , maybe he could have been talking about me ? Well I`ll take it, I`m not so precious that I can`t accept opinions other than the norm` it is time to take a step back and take a look at the club without our rose tinted spectacles on . I would love people like him to join the Supporters Trust and run with a few of any ideas he can come up with as like him I am worried about dwindleing terrace supporters.'"



Absolutly, Its utter rubbish that you can't comment unless your coming down and showing us you can do it better for free in your own time that Irks me, Yes the club and fans appreciate the work that goes in but why shouldnt comments be passed, lets carry on regardless and watch us reach the Dizzy heights of Batleys crowds, After all the team isnt performing, Oh and i made a comment about the smoking ban will put people off coming to watch and a few weeks after the crowds are even lower, I was told " its nothing to do with the club ". Surely when it impacts on the money taken in gate fee's its everything to do with the club and the council could be approached as to find out why and communicate this to fans. I still feel deep down that we might turn the season around with a GF. We just need some inspiration, both on and off field. New York was a great idea but planning it for a Whitehaven game might have been the Bananna skin there, Fev would have been better for getting the crowds up. Next season is the biggest in recent history for this club and i dont feel we have gone forward at all. I agree with Justthebasicfax, things have gone stale and not just the Kit.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "Littlerich, let me get this right, you're requesting private information of a new poster be cross referenced with another poster '"


No, you got it wrong.

I didn't request anything. Admins have the facility to check ISP's. I didn't say they should. I didn't request that they do it. I just posted a fact. I merely surmised at what an Admin person might do.

Anyhoo, thou doth protest too much so they probably don't even need to look icon_biggrin.gif

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I've never read such bellendery.

Welcome to the brave new world without our money man. Remember that last time? Remember who we ended up with?

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Quote: littlerich "No, you got it wrong.

I didn't request anything. Admins have the facility to check ISP's. I didn't say they should. I didn't request that they do it. I just posted a fact. I merely surmised at what an Admin person might do.

Anyhoo, thou doth protest too much so they probably don't even need to look
It doesn`t even follow that they are the same person though ,strangly enough people used to be always thinking that I was posting under two names because my hubby and I share the same e-mail etc.Funnily enough though we don`t agree on most things so people who thought that must think I have a split personality. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: johnny freeman fan club "It doesn`t even follow that they are the same person though ,strangly enough people used to be always thinking that I was posting under two names because my hubby and I share the same e-mail etc.Funnily enough though we don`t agree on most things so people who thought that must think I have a split personality.
Indeed.

Also, I don't think there's anything wrong with Justthebasicfax's right as a forum poster to post what he did. Nor is it wrong of Malcolm to defend himself and have a go back. It's a forum. That's what forums are for. Discussion, revisionism, criticism and opinions. If I have a go at Chris Smith for some of his posts it's because I disagree with him. It doesn't mean that I don't think he should be allowed to post just because sometimes he criticises the club. Neither should we stop the likes of Charlie Carioli coming on here talking jibberish just because he's a Leigh fan. Everyone's fair game.

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