Sounds like we're in a rough place right now and could be reaching a tipping point.

Remember, we have a great board. They will do what is needed

Karl has until the end of the season for me then must go. He signed the Players and is his tactics that are proving poor and boring. Karl is a Fax Legend and clearly loves the club- one reason why I didnt think he should be Coach. Personally I dont care where the Coach or Players are from as long as they perform somewhere near their potential and entertain. Trophies are a Bonus. Fax are doing neither since Karl signed.

It musnt be pleasant reading for the BOD when they come on this forum at the moment and I have to say i have never seen a coach recover when it has come to this point. Can KH become the first to turn it around or will it just be a case of delaying the inevitable once again?

The problem isnt so much the losing games its the losing fans, die hard fans at that, who are saying they wont come and watch the style of rugby we are playing. The problem then is that the people who are coming to watch probably are not going to try and bring others to watch if they dont think it is value for money, which at the moment I would struggle to find someone who thinks that it is.

I'd say the problem is losing the games, I can take playing poor or unattractive rugby if we get results. Its the losing part or drawing after throwing good leads away aka Batley and yesterday that loses the fans.

Ironically though we through the win at Batley by not closing the game down and shutting up shop when we had it won by being expansive throwing daft passes out at the wrong time in the game.

Recently we have been too dour and not throwing the passes out.

In between we have been terrific against some of the lower sides scoring 50 points or more but unable to get the results against the better sides.

Probably a good solid game plan that knows when to play both types of game with CONSISTENCY is the key.

When im bored i have a fag,but sadly that option
has been taken away too.

We had some entertainment yesterday. A bloke spilled his pint and apparently the group he stood with have a rule that you have to lick every step that the said pint spills upon. He proceeded to lick 5 steps of the terrace. He even asked one bloke stood against a crush barrier to step aside so he could finish the task.

With sideshows like that, you don't need ciggies

Come on my Fax friends , these posts are disturbing , Charlie (Believe it or not )doesn't like to see you so downbeat , your season is not over yet ,you have the players to turn things around , maybe Karl has lost the plot , Charlie doesn't know .

What has happened to the Fax on Fire attitude ?Remember the Alamo , and get together as a group , Nail Littlerich to a Small Door , it might make you feel better .

Thanks for that. I was just thinking, what the Fax fans need right now is some eeijit from Leigh chatting sheeeeeeeeite on here.

Thanks Charlie. We know.......

Three quarters of the way up, ending up licking his way to half way down

Did you mean a cigarette ?

Of course he did. We're not Septics, you know.