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It feels like the have tried to save face on this one. Do they post any detail about the reason for their grading and punishment, or some summary of the basis of the appeal and why it was rejected. At the moment there is no transparency or clarity over the variance in the grading and punishments - in fact from an outsiders views it seems you get a lower grading for trying to move a player who was flat out and potentially more seriously injured, than a player who is clearly able to move and appears to be at far less risk of any injury due to a tug of his shirt.

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Quote: gizempo "It feels like the have tried to save face on this one. Do they post any detail about the reason for their grading and punishment, or some summary of the basis of the appeal and why it was rejected. At the moment there is no transparency or clarity over the variance in the grading and punishments - in fact from an outsiders views it seems you get a lower grading for trying to move a player who was flat out and potentially more seriously injured, than a player who is clearly able to move and appears to be at far less risk of any injury due to a tug of his shirt.'"


Interestingly a lot of the disciplinary processes are discussed on a programme called sin bin and have had Paul Cullen and other members of the panel explaining the process, unfortunately the program hasn’t aired since early June . I have emailed the rfl regarding this , I have had replies on other subjects but I’m still awaiting a response on this .

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Quote: Listenup94 "It doesn’t matter how calm and objective I try to be about this incident and whatever reasonable angle I think about it , based on all other comparable instances I cannot come to a 5 match difference in ban time , it’s just ludicrous.'"

To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.

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Quote: faxcar "To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.'"


If you get some time watch the first 10 minutes of this , even their own reasoning seems to contradict the gwaze incident https://youtu.be/Xe4g_TCFy9M
Quote: faxcar "To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.'"


If you get some time watch the first 10 minutes of this , even their own reasoning seems to contradict the gwaze incident https://youtu.be/Xe4g_TCFy9M


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Quote: faxcar "To illustrate, i’m driving down the road with a 30 mph speed limit at 40 mph and get a fine and 3 months ban.
A week or so later your driving down the same road doing 40 and you get a fine and 8 months ban from the same prosecuting authority it’s as clear and obvious as that.

It’s not about Titus being a Fax player I feel exactly the same about discrimination it should be the same rule for everybody.

And with that in mind not only is it discrimination but with the objectives of the “Tackle it” campaign being 100% disregarded is 100% hypocritical.

I’ll support Fax as long as there is a Fax to support but anything else that involves the RFL and I won’t support or spend a penny on it.'"


Wait until you see what they’ve done with the England RL kit for the World Cup (even though they insisted the replicas they sold last year would be used this year…)

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Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/
Matt shaw discussing Titus gwazes’ disciplinary and others with gwazes agent Graeme Taylor https://www.facebook.com/RugbyLeagueLiv ... 995839084/


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Quote: Faxlore "Thanks for posting that. Taylor makes perfect sense, however a players agent speaking his mind won’t change the RFLs minds because they want to and always have protected the SL players for their income from Sky and their precious top clubs. Titus has lost playing money and by the sound of it is suffering mentally as well which I’m sure the RFL won’t help him with even though they bang on about players welfare. I have no doubt Titus is getting support from the club and his team mates and hopefully he knows all tue Panthers fans are behind him, support him and look forward to when he pulls the blue and white on and gets back on the field.'"


Here here.

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What is the ultimate goal of the RFL? They seem to see clubs as their bitter enemies that need to be punished. The game of Rugby League is dying due to an outright attack by the RFL and it's disciplinary commitee against clubs, players and fans.

I'm actually fearing the worst this next 2 weeks. I promise you this. Bradford will run us close, maybe sneak it and Batley will beat us because of the very real shadow of the Premier Sports cameras that may as well be painted yellow and flash on a strong collision. It's inevitable Fax won't be able to play their game through fear of a fine and ban in the post for any possible incursion

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Quote: jeffvickers "What is the ultimate goal of the RFL? They seem to see clubs as their bitter enemies that need to be punished. The game of Rugby League is dying due to an outright attack by the RFL and it's disciplinary commitee against clubs, players and fans.

I'm actually fearing the worst this next 2 weeks. I promise you this. Bradford will run us close, maybe sneak it and Batley will beat us because of the very real shadow of the Premier Sports cameras that may as well be painted yellow and flash on a strong collision. It's inevitable Fax won't be able to play their game through fear of a fine and ban in the post for any possible incursion'"

I think that sounds a bit dramatic. All players from all teams are aware of what the RFL disciplinary are like. Especially the teams from the championship and championship 1. They (and we) all know that their punishment for an infringement, whether seen by the officials during the game or not, will get the full the punishment for that grade while SL players won’t. At one time a red card meant you were looking at a ban. Now you you get a ban for a yellow card or even just a penalty. The RFL should do away with penalties during a game and let the match review panel watch the game after and just ban who they fancying banning whether the offence deserves it or not.

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Matt Garside the latest to get a 1 game ban for a late hit and will miss the Batley game.

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Quote: faxcar "Matt Garside the latest to get a 1 game ban for a late hit and will miss the Batley game.'"

F*^king hell!

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Quote: Faxlore "I think that sounds a bit dramatic. All players from all teams are aware of what the RFL disciplinary are like. Especially the teams from the championship and championship 1. They (and we) all know that their punishment for an infringement, whether seen by the officials during the game or not, will get the full the punishment for that grade while SL players won’t. At one time a red card meant you were looking at a ban. Now you you get a ban for a yellow card or even just a penalty. The RFL should do away with penalties during a game and let the match review panel watch the game after and just ban who they fancying banning whether the offence deserves it or not.'"



There needs to be urgent change at the top.
The RFL needs professional people fast.

If Rimmer stood down tomorrow, then his replacement is here
rugby-league.com/governance/about-the-rfl/board

They'd have Andy Farrell's request to join the board in the bin in a flash

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From the Bash.
Joe Martin given a caution.
George Flanagan no charge.
Dec Patton grade e refer to tribunal.

Jacob Fairbanks was not mentioned.

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