Same old, same old today. That was just a really low quality game of rugby league, Widnes were dire and we were worse. Capable of winning all 5 but fell at the first hurdle. Again if we can manage to win all our remaining games then we will probably still make the playoffs and we know the team can get up for big games but anyone feeling confident of us winning 4/4?

Also what is it with the experiment of playing McComb in the back row? We are light enough as it is without having to play a winger in that spot and once again we came up against a pack that dominated ours for most of the game.

Considering it was two teams fighting to get into the playoffs apart from the result what we watched today was a very poor quality game with little on a positive note to say about it so I won’t even try.

Rare that I'm looking forward to end of a season but that was dire. Sutcliffe must presumably be a decent second row, and on today's showing we need one, but he was not a centre. Total lack of understanding with Walmsley and we gift 3 pathetically straightforward identical tries. Thought Crooks had by far his best game, and O'brien was a breath of fresh air when he came on. Keyes was largely ineffective, although hardly surprising after such a long lay off. There is the core of a really good championship team there, especially if they can sign up O'brien for next year but today, for such an important game, it was totally deflating.

Really poor performance exasperated by some low iq plays and the usual brain farts . With dewsburys season finished I wonder if Finn will come in to assist Grix for the final 4 games, I’d like him to be in the dressing room to see first hand what’s going on .

Stupid errors yet again led to two of their tries. Some feeble attempts at tackling too. Walmsey and Sutcliffe so obviously not on the same wavelength. In fact Walmsley was poor throughout. So many of the squad not performing and I think Finn will have to move people on and freshen up the team over the next two years. Only three to come out of the game with any credit were Cakcott, Lannon and O`Brien. I cannot remember last time I left before the end of the game.

I have seen a few people mention this and I really hope that it does not happen, our season is pretty much done and it now needs to be a clean break and let the players have a break as well and then Finn take over for pre-season. Hopefully Finn ges some say in any late recruitment but I fear most is already done now so it could be another season before Finn gets to put a true stamp on the team and with the abysmal league showing it has to be debatable if there is even any money in the kitty for more players.

I think Richard durgan mentioned in one interview there was still a bit of room for recruitment. If we can keep obrien that’ll be a good start , the remaining recruitment will be an indication of where we see ourselves and our budget . The recruitment once the season has started as been pretty good , lannon , crooks , pickersgill, obrien, plus Douglas for next year , if it continues in this vein then we’ll have a strong squad for next year . We can’t be that skint we’ve bought an electronic scoreboard , lol

The effort was there, they bust a gut to get over the line near the end, but the execution was poor, like a rudderless ship. Eg trying to acrobat in the corner on the first tackle from a scrum 10 yards from the Widnes line. I thought we had them at half time, it just needed composure which just wasn't there in the 2nd half, just headless chicken stuff with the biggest threat coming from darts by AOB at the PTBs. All very frustrating against a very ordinary Widnes who had no stand out quality.

The irony about the defeat is that Widnes have now got a sniff of the top 6 and could do us a favour by beating Batley (whose form is worse than ours - must be the 1895 cup hangover!) and London in the next couple of weeks. All is not lost.

Grix didn't seem to hang around after the match ...... he was in the Vocation in town within an hour of the final hooter, not that it means much I suppose. Just saying.

I was sat near Grix and his gesticulations mimicked mine , head in hands , head shaking etc , that first tackle play was one of the dumbest things I’ve seen , tbf I think the team has drove him to drink , I know if I’d have been coaching them this season I’d have been sat in poundlands doorway drinking whisky from a brown paper bag by now.

Yep, I was spitting chips at that one, as well as "several" occasions where we were pushed into touch .... when we shouldn't have been.

One thing I forgot to mention in my match analysis ................ we were 8 points behind with 15 minutes to go and Widnes kept slowing it down and conceding penalties. I would have taken 2 points to bring us within 1 score. I remember Bradford, coached by the "clever" John Kear, doing this against us a few seasons back at the Shay. They were 7 points behind and took 2 from a penalty and I remember the folk around me laughing saying what a daft thing to do. But they just didn't get it .... and Bradford went on to win. I suppose it would only have got us a point (possibly!) but that would have been vital as our points difference is much better than Batley and London.

Watching Grix's interview you literally could have been watching the same interview from many of our games this season. A couple of things stood out, he sounded frustrated when asked about changing the team around and talked about not dropping players as they had done well previously but this is something that has been a highlight of our season in that players have kept their places despite making costly errors in different games yet we have a lad whos last game for us was a stand out performance and he has not played since. It just sends the wrong message out to the players and lacklustre performances could very well be a byproduct of that.
Grix also talked about how great Keyes was but I think if we are all honest he looked like a player who had not played for many weeks and I am reserving judgement until I see the replays but he was also part of the trio that conceded 3 tries in the first half and although it is often the winger who ends up looking silly, the problem usually starts further in. To get caught out once is fine, twice you need to start asking questions but 3 times is just awful. It will go down as just another game that we could have done a whole lot better in.

I thought exactly the same at the time about taking the two points on offer. There was plenty of time and we would have had the ball back with over ten minutes left. All might have been different with that as Widnes were rocking a little. The Widnes` fullbacks tackle on Keyes under the posts was the match-winner in my eyes.
I had high hopes this year after i felt we had recruited quite well but didn`t find a good defensive centre or two.
Just too many errors and dumb plays throughout the season.

Onwards we march towards next season....

Biggest mistake in my opinion this year Grix releasing two good quality centres and thinking that he could replace them by playing wingers in that spot. It was finally put right in bringing Crooks in but until then every man and his dog who has watched rugby could tell us we needed 2 centres. Again just putting it out there for any doubt, I think Maizen and McComb are both good players its just unfortunatley as wingers they are behind 2 of the best in the division. On Tibbs his attacking at times looks really good but unfortunatley his defense is so weak that it is hard to say if he will ever make it at this level as a first team regular. Stranger things have happened but going on team selection this season it does not look great for him sadly.

Let's hope his beer wasn't as hazy as his tactics! Yet again it was a game there for the taking and for a host of reasons we weren't up to it. Widnes were poor and I bet they couldn't quite believe it going back down the M62. Surely after the 2nd try down our left SG should have changed it but no, we concede a third identical try and even though we somehow levelled it by half time we never really looked like taking control. It is so frustrating as we all know this squad should be doing a whole lot better. Finally, it would be good if SG was asked directly in his after match interview why Tom Inman isn't playing.