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Quote: mr t hall "Not sure that's true FC Halifax u19s play at Shay(tonight for example).Both clubs should pay same and have same resource IMO would stop all bickering.'"


I wasnt on about pitch usage although it is comparable. I was talking about actual usage of facilities - office space, shop space, laundry, etc.

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Pitch use is comparable ?
FCHT- 22 league 2 FAT 2 FAC 2 WRC
3 FRIENDLY say 6 YOUTH=37
FAX-15 league/po 1 FR 2 CC=18

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Quote: Bubba "And has far less use of the facilities.'"



That's not exactly true though is it? If you take into account the fact the most important thing at the shay is the pitch the rugby club play on the pitch a maximum of 16 games a year! Where as the football club play on the pitch a minimum 23 games a year!

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Quote: Faxtastic123 "That's not exactly true though is it? If you take into account the fact the most important thing at the shay is the pitch the rugby club play on the pitch a maximum of 16 games a year! Where as the football club play on the pitch a minimum 23 games a year!'"


I think you will find those guessed figures incorrect.

Do you know how rent is worked out? Its not based on what is 'the most important thing'. Does a shop in the town centre pay more rent for the shop area than its store room or office space? icon_rolleyes.gif

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When renting a stadium the rent is surely per fixture variable upon legal requirements on other fixed costs eg stewarding etc That should be a fixed rate for both clubs, any office space should be at the going rate and under separate cover, at the LSV the club shop was within the LSV it cost too much and a deal struck with the Market which increased foot flow also.

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Quote: Bubba "I think you will find those guessed figures incorrect.

Do you know how rent is worked out? Its not based on what is 'the most important thing'. Does a shop in the town centre pay more rent for the shop area than its store room or office space?

No I don't know how the rent is worked out! But please explain to me how them figures are incorrect?

Last year the rugby club played 11 league games at home plus 3 super 8s games and didn't have any home challenge cup games. Total 14 games.

The football club played 23 league games at home plus all the cup competitions you were in. Meaning you played at least 23 games at the shay!!!

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Quote: Faxtastic123 "No I don't know how the rent is worked out! But please explain to me how them figures are incorrect?

Last year the rugby club played 11 league games at home plus 3 super 8s games and didn't have any home challenge cup games. Total 14 games.

The football club played 23 league games at home plus all the cup competitions you were in. Meaning you played at least 23 games at the shay!!!'"

Hey behave FC won the FAT last season so actually had 5 ties at home in that comp alone.Bubba's gone quiet because the fixure comparison's are poles apart,which is probably why arbitration was called for.

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Quote: mr t hall "Hey behave FC won the FAT last season so actually had 5 ties at home in that comp alone.Bubba's gone quiet because the fixure comparison's are poles apart,which is probably why arbitration was called for.'"


Fax have complained for a long time about pitch usage and have been proven wrong. Though I am happy for them to prove me wrong.

Going back to the 2013/14 season (when Fax first bleated to the local press about pitch usage and unfair rent charges) the Shaymen used the pitch 25 times.

(Games x players on pitch x length of match = pitch usage)

25 x 22 x 90 = 49,500

During their 2013 campaign Fax also had use of the pitch for 25 games.

25 x 26 x 80 = 52,000

Do you have the information available about how many times HRLFC have trained on the pitch this year to make an accurate assessment? I dont, but history suggests Fax will once again be wrong.

Both clubs, as part of their tenancy, get office space within the stadium. Whilst Fax are using the facilities that the East Stand offers, the Shaymen continue to operate from out of the dated office block between the South and Skircoat Road Stands.

The rugby club have for a number of years had a club shop to sell merchandise from. Whilst there is history behind the reasons why FCHT continue to sell goods from a trestle table rather than their own shop, the fact is that this is one additional area where HRLFC get a greater use of the Shay facilities.

Then there is the gym underneath the South Stand which is exclusively used by the rugby club. Fax also have the laundry room within the East Stand which will use considerable amounts of water and electric. The Shaymen however continue to use an external launderette at their own expense.

Fax Facilities
• Kit Store - 143.75 sq.ft.
• Boot room – 62.5 sq.ft.
• Physio room – 136.10 sq.ft.
• Changing and Showers – 487.14 sq.ft.
• Gym – 1352.67 sq.ft.
• Records store – 115.5 sq.ft.
• Use of meeting rooms within the stadium subject to availability

Rooms in East Stand
• Shop – 339.81 sq.ft.
• Laundry – 186.33 sq.ft.
• Coaches Office – 84.86 sq.ft.
• Physio Room – 105 sq.ft.
• Office – 612.59 sq.ft
• Use of meeting rooms within the stadium subject to availability.

Total square footage 3626.25 sq.ft.

Town Facilities
Rooms in the old office block, south west corner of the ground.
• Store room – 140.03 sq.ft
• Changing room – 195.25 sq.ft.
• Reception – 87.5 sq.ft.
• Large office front right – 398 sq.ft.
• Commercial Directors office – 118.06 sq.ft.
• Left corner – 148.14 sq.ft.
• Office commune – 150.33 sq.ft
• Secretary – 78.83 sq.ft.

Rooms in East Stand
• Physio room – 125 sq.ft.
• Coaches Office – 103.14 sq.ft.
• Use of meeting rooms within the stadium subject to availability.

Total square footage 1544.28 sq.ft.

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wow,getting very deep there to prove a point from years gone by.
The salient fact 2016 fax 15 games
Town 2015/6 at least 32 not including any youth.As 2 asides why can't town use gym and town do use the shop area,just too mean to fit it out.

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The problem is, year after year, the Luddites continue to be proven right and yet you come back with different questions or just ignore the facts.

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It's nice that you care that much to come up with all those numbers. icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: griff1998 "It's nice that you care that much to come up with all those numbers.
Thank CMBC.

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Tow set the trestle table up in the space left for a shop which imo is taking the p!ss, as it looks like a building site. effectively squatting icon_eek.gif

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Quote: thefaxfanman "Tow set the trestle table up in the space left for a shop which imo is taking the p!ss, as it looks like a building site. effectively squatting lol...don't know how Town get away with this but it was shut during arbitration but has now reopened so it must be ok.arbitration obviously went against the rugby and to be fair
both clubs have contracts and the fact that the football now play twice as many games does not warrant a 50k withhold,just a request to re-evaluate.

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Don't forget the repair bill to pitch that Town add to the maintenance costs every year after a full winter season of using it and then try and blame the rugby club despite the fact that it is in perfect condition when we have finished playing on it.

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