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Miles going, our only specialist full back, wonder who's been lined up as replacement?

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Quote: 87legends. "Kaye and Moore I think should be enough.lets save money for impact players.we have a tight budget quality not quantity imo.are we that big a club we need 3hookers we don't hook the ball in the scrum anymore.a half back can follow the ruck.why waste money on hookers.strike players win you games.in my opinon.'"



If I was asked to pick between Kaye and Robinson though I'd pick Conor Robinson without even thinking about it! I think Ben Kaye has been very disappointing this season!

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Quote: Faxtastic123 "If I was asked to pick between Kaye and Robinson though I'd pick Conor Robinson without even thinking about it! I think Ben Kaye has been very disappointing this season!'"


The great thing about a forum like this is that we all have opinions, my opinion? I think Ben Kaye has been excellent.
He makes breaks, tackles hard and is a vocal player on the pitch.
I saw him walk of the pitch after his last game the other week, ice pack on leg, cut above both eyes and now we hear a Brocken jaw.
A gutsy player.
My humble opinion.
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Quote: Higgin34 "Miles going, our only specialist full back, wonder who's been lined up as replacement?'"



I thought Heaton came here as a fullback?

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Quote: halifaxjohn "The great thing about a forum like this is that we all have opinions, my opinion? I think Ben Kaye has been excellent.
He makes breaks, tackles hard and is a vocal player on the pitch.
I saw him walk of the pitch after his last game the other week, ice pack on leg, cut above both eyes and now we hear a Brocken jaw.
A gutsy player.
My humble opinion.
KEEP.'"


I agree with you to a point and if it was based on last season I would agree with every word, but in my opinion he has gone backwards since last season, I'm not just signalling him out, because it think the majority of team has gone backwards since last season. Personally I would keep him think he's a good player to have in the squad. But if I was forced to choose who to between Kaye, Moore and Robinson I'd pick Moore and Robinson. I think Moore has been one of our best players this year and I just think Robinson offers a bit more in attack than Ben Kaye does!

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I can't remember seeing Heaton play fullback. I actually preferred Salty at FB than on the wing. Richard does seem determined to keep playing Jonno there though. Have we still got Charlie Martin in the reserves too ?

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Quote: Simfax "I can't remember seeing Heaton play fullback. I actually preferred Salty at FB than on the wing. Richard does seem determined to keep playing Jonno there though. Have we still got Charlie Martin in the reserves too ?'"


Joe Martin? Not heard anything but believe so.

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Quote: Cassandra "I thought Heaton came here as a fullback?'"

Yes you're right but I can't recall the last time he played there hence not really a specialist

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Quote: Norman Bates "Joe Martin? Not heard anything but believe so.'"

Yes Joe Martin (not sure where I got Charlie from - another senior moment d040.gif )Ive just checked he is still showing in the squad but can't recall seeing his name on any of the reserve squad lists. He might be out on loan. What's happened to Jake Eccleston too ? -he seems to have disappeared too.

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Saltonstall is the best attacking fullback I have seen, but he made way for Greenwood, then Johnson this season. Wasted on the wing for me.

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Quote: Simfax "Yes Joe Martin (not sure where I got Charlie from - another senior moment
You were probably thinking of Charlie Martin who plays 2nd row @ Keighley think he started out @ Cas

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Quote: bentleyman "You were probably thinking of Charlie Martin who plays 2nd row @ Keighley think he started out @ Cas'"

Or Charlie Caroli ,the modest Leigh fan and Clown. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: jeffvickers "Saltonstall is the best attacking fullback I have seen, but he made way for Greenwood, then Johnson this season. Wasted on the wing for me.'"


Got dropped earlier in the season for going on the slash the night before training so you have to wonder if there is an attitude problem. I know he has been playing injured the back end of the season but he has not been good enough to justify his place in the team IMO. I agree he has looked better for us at fullback though but Marshall seems intent on having a ball playing full back which teams at this level simply can not afford for a player who has the sort of talent that SL play in those positions. We end up playing half backs out of position and trying to teach a half back how to be a full back in a part time environment just can not work.

For me its more a question of who I think justifies keeping rather than who I would get rid of. Of the undroppables I would keep Murrell, G Moore, Tyrer, Manning, Tangata, Grix, Cahalane, Ambler although only Manning and Tangata actually justify that tag and the others certainly need to improve their performances. Of the others I would keep Johnston, Potts, Sharp, Heaton, Saltonstall, Kaye, Fairbank, B Moore, I would have kept R Moore as well. By process of elimination that would mean getting rid of Bennion, Greenwood, A Robinson, C Robinson, Barber, Boyle.

I would keep a few of the fringe first teamers but only if we could afford it and it did not effect our ability to improve the quality of the team. I think all the players to leave could do a job mid table and below this level but for a team that hopefully has top 4 ambitions its a struggle to keep them and even a few of the others I would be touch and go on if the right player became available.

How I would like us to line up next year:-

1. New Player
2. Sharp
3. Rawsthorpe/Tyrer
4. Grady/Heaton
5. New Player
6. Moore
7. Johnston
8. Cahalane
9. Kaye
10. New player
11. Tangata
12. Manning
13. Grix/Murrell

We could rotate Murrell at hooker as Marshall does not see him as a LF but B Moore has to have a place in the team on performances this season. Thats would leave Ambler and possibly Fairbank on the bench but would mean we need a big impact player to toughen up or pack. We simply can not have G Moore and Murrell at half back together next season as they are too alike and are one of the main reasons our attack has looked so slow and laboured for most of the season. Keep them there and we may as well just stick some average forwards in our centres and wing as they don't get time to move as it is.

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Great post that,lot of thought gone into it and it's hard to disagree with it's content.If RM did start with Johnstone in the halves next season it would certainly represent a climbdown.

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1. New Player/Craven
2. Sharp
3. Rawsthorpe/Tyrer/new player
4. Grady/Heaton
5. New Player
6. Moore / craven
7. new player
8. Cahalane
9. Kaye / b moore
10. New player
11. Tangata
12. Manning
13. Grix/Murrell

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