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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



The problems Wakey are facing are an effect of the ridiculous franchise system. They have obviously overspent trying to avoid falling through the trapdoor by ticking (falsly) as many boxes as possible.

But, any potential Wakey loss is hopefully Fax's gain. Fingers crossed.

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Quote: justthebasicfax "I hope your right, you cant blame anyone for being cynical and prepared for the worst, i did wonder when they sponsored both us and cas whether he was hedging his bets, whether he knew something that wasnt public knowledge yet, im hoping hes very astute and has some good intel on the game..'"



AFAIK Probiz sponsored Fax first and then sponsored Cas when their original sponsorship deal for 2011 fell through. It was going to be Metrel an electronics company.

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Quote: Bubba "The problems Wakey are facing are an effect of the ridiculous franchise system. They have obviously overspent trying to avoid falling through the trapdoor by ticking (falsly) as many boxes as possible.

But, any potential Wakey loss is hopefully Fax's gain. Fingers crossed.'"


That can't be true. P&R bankrupts clubs, not franchising. Franchising brings security. Franchising brings top quality young English players to the fore. There's no room for failing clubs in SL. That's why Wakefield, Crusaders and Harlequins are basking in the safe haven of the franchised and why we are down here amongst the dis-enfranchised. Sounds like a suffragette scenario. I'm going to burn my bra outside Red Hall.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: littlerich "That can't be true. P&R bankrupts clubs, not franchising. Franchising brings security. Franchising brings top quality young English players to the fore. There's no room for failing clubs in SL. That's why Wakefield, Crusaders and Harlequins are basking in the safe haven of the franchised and why we are down here amongst the dis-enfranchised. Sounds like a suffragette scenario. I'm going to burn my bra outside Red Hall.'"


I always knew there was something strange about you icon_wink.gif

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Loving the hypocrisy of some.:



Quote: Starbug "I always knew there was something strange about you
Me too. Didnt think it was that he is a cross dresser though.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Bubba "Me too. Didnt think it was that he is a cross dresser though.'"


I read somewhere it was more prevalent in Yorkshire icon_wink.gif

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Quote: littlerich "That can't be true. P&R bankrupts clubs, not franchising. Franchising brings security. Franchising brings top quality young English players to the fore.'"


Thats why clubs like Hull KR have 10 overseas players by one means or another. At least David Brook was open about it in the 70's

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Probiz are certainly "talking the talk". Now it's time to "walk the walk"

I hope they are not Rugby Leagues version of Hicks & Gillette
been a liverpool fan i know what its like to have someone like Hicks & Gillette running a club and well wasnt great icon_sad.gif and i hope probiz isn't the same but whatever the outcome is in march aint gonna stop me following fax k020.gif

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Quote: parker 2k9 "been a liverpool fan i know what its like to have someone like Hicks & Gillette running a club and well wasnt great

If it's the same Gill & Hicks that gave Rafa a blank chq (but signed muppets) then I am sure MC would be over the moon.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "been a liverpool fan i know what its like to have someone like Hicks & Gillette running a club and well wasnt great icon_lol.gif cant wait for fax season to start

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Quote: Bubba "The problems Wakey are facing are an effect of the ridiculous franchise system. They have obviously overspent trying to avoid falling through the trapdoor by ticking (falsly) as many boxes as possible.

But, any potential Wakey loss is hopefully Fax's gain. Fingers crossed.'"


While the problems aren't IMO an effect of the Franchise system , what it has done is polarized those problems because instead of a chance to rebuild and return with clear targets , they and we know the odds on them getting back up to SL are very slim

Yes we should all run a perfect business , but this is sport , so it's nothing to do with business

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "Salford are safe, their stadium is coming on nicely.'"


3500 average in a new stadium? icon_lol.gif Serious it is a Man Utd area and it wont take off.Maybe first year higher attendances, then will go back to normality.Anyway if not Salford why not swap with Castleford? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "3500 average in a new stadium?
TO BE HONEST EVEN THOUGH CAS ARE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE LEAST FASHIONABLE SUPER LEAGUE SIDES, THEY HAVE A GREAT FOLLOWING AND GET GOOD CROWDS FOR THEIR LEAGUE POSITION.

THEIR NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH PROBIZ AND THE NEW STADIA COULD PUSH CAS ONTO ANOTHER LEVEL.

CAS ARE MY 2ND TEAM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE COMPETING AT THE SAME LEVEL AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

I AGREE WITH THE SALFORD COMMENT....1ST YEAR BETTER CROWDS THANKS TO ALL THESE NEW SIGNINGS AND NEW STADIA. BUT IF THEY DONT GET QUICK SUCCESS, IT WONT LAST LONG.

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