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Haggertys lucky it only caught Sam on the cheek, anywhere else on his head and he would have suffered some serious damage to his elbow.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "I remember Mick Cassidy's elbow on Morley, but at least Morley had the ball.
Mick got a straight red and wasn't seen for a while.

Haggerty should be looking at a lengthy ban for that'"


I remember that. Mozza's eye was a beauty after that strike.

That shot from Haggerty should have been a straight red, (if it was seen), and should have been referred to the disciplinary panel to be dealt with asap, whether on report or not. Perhaps someone can confirm that the incident could be cited by the Match Commissioner for prompt review?

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Quote: Tortured Soul "I remember that. Mozza's eye was a beauty after that strike.

That shot from Haggerty should have been a straight red, (if it was seen), and should have been referred to the disciplinary panel to be dealt with asap, whether on report or not. Perhaps someone can confirm that the incident could be cited by the Match Commissioner for prompt review?'"


As far as I know all championship reports or sendings off are dealt with on the Tuesday of the following week and not the current week, so even if he did get a red card he would still be able to play on Thursday.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "Thursday will be a riot if we dont have a strong ref.

The dirty cheap shooting scousers will be out to lower the game to a boxing match, at least they will be exposed on SKY.

Haggis should do time for that challenge let alone a ban!!'"


From a team that employ Thamghart & Watene? lol.

No one is condoning what Haggs did and he will rightly get a ban he just took a personal battle with Barlow way to far!

Widnes have never been cheap shot merchants and have often suffered becuase we get ruffed up in the Championship, so once we get some players who can take it and give some rougher stuff back like Gannon we suddenly become a dirty team? I don't think so, Eagles fans said Widnes used spoil tactics last week yet still scored 44 points away from home?

Fax saw at the end of last season playing fancy rugby isn't enough hence why they signed the likes of Aizue & Gene to toughen things up, so why when Widnes do it are we 'lowering the game' etc etc.

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Quote: J20 "

Widnes have never been cheap shot merchants .'"


Maybe not but you've always been dirty buggers icon_wink.gif

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Quote: J20 "From a team that employ Thamghart & Watene? lol.

No one is condoning what Haggs did and he will rightly get a ban he just took a personal battle with Barlow way to far!

Widnes have never been cheap shot merchants and have often suffered becuase we get ruffed up in the Championship, so once we get some players who can take it and give some rougher stuff back like Gannon we suddenly become a dirty team? I don't think so, Eagles fans said Widnes used spoil tactics last week yet still scored 44 points away from home?

Fax saw at the end of last season playing fancy rugby isn't enough hence why they signed the likes of Aizue & Gene to toughen things up, so why when Widnes do it are we 'lowering the game' etc etc.'"



Big Jim in his pomp ?
Kurt Sorenson ?
Crikey the list is endless....


Every team has had their fair share, don't worry your self over it.

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cheap shot by a dirty basterd who should get fined and banned

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Quote: J20 "From a team that employ Thamghart & Watene? lol.

No one is condoning what Haggs did and he will rightly get a ban he just took a personal battle with Barlow way to far!

Widnes have never been cheap shot merchants and have often suffered becuase we get ruffed up in the Championship, so once we get some players who can take it and give some rougher stuff back like Gannon we suddenly become a dirty team? I don't think so, Eagles fans said Widnes used spoil tactics last week yet still scored 44 points away from home?

Fax saw at the end of last season playing fancy rugby isn't enough hence why they signed the likes of Aizue & Gene to toughen things up, so why when Widnes do it are we 'lowering the game' etc etc.'"



Lets just make one massive distinction, TOUGH is different to DIRTY.
What Haggerty did was not TOUGH it was DIRTY.

Said, Makali, Watene et al are tough not DIRTY.

Carry on.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "Lets just make one massive distinction, TOUGH is different to DIRTY.
What Haggerty did was not TOUGH it was DIRTY.
Said, Makali, Watene et al are tough not DIRTY.

Carry on.'"


I think those are fair distinctions mate but I would also make the distinction that Haggerty is not typically a dirty player. His actions on Sunday belie this fact and I think most are surprised that it was this player involved.
For whatever reason, and personally I think he had a few without condoning the hit, he lost his temper and his aggression boiled over from acceptable levels.

You can guarantee one thing though....
following the match on Sunday Halifax will be instructed to go out there and try and rile us on Thursday night. I'm sure Calland will have pointed to one or two players in our side that might lose their heads. Expect some 'aggressive' play and few angels on that pitch from either side.

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In defence of Turley he went to his linesman on more than one occasion for clarification, notably the 'try', the drop out and the awful shot by Haggerty, which should see a 7 game ban for intent. That assault was that late I would imagine Turley saw it in the corner of his eye as the ball was miles away.

Anyway I hope you knock seven bells out of each other tomorrow, I understand the Widnes pack think they can bully yours all over the park, in which case Black hides and Widnes rack the points up.

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Quote: wereutherein1987? "Lets just make one massive distinction, TOUGH is different to DIRTY.
What Haggerty did was not TOUGH it was DIRTY.

Said, Makali, Watene et al are tough not DIRTY.

Carry on.'"


So one shot defines a career? Players like Rob Roberts IMO are dirty as all they offer is cheap shots and constant mouthing off at people. The others are 'enforcers' who unfotunately once or twice cross a line. I've seen young Widnes lads booted in the head off the ball and less fuss be made tbh! I expect a 3 game ban and righly.

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Apparently Barlow spat at Haggerty priot to that play the ball and he gave him a good whack in return.

You can feel his full force before his ban. icon_smile.gif

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I've not seen this one but Jeremy Smith has got a 2 match ban and £300 fine for use of the elbow on Danny Orr;


I know if someone had spat at me I'd be rather displeased to say the least.

If there was no spitting then it's a different matter again.

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The RFL' discplinary pannel has never made sense tbh alwyas differing in punishments for same 'crimes' etc.

One example... Kav got red for elbow use and that was deemed sufficient punishment. Yet Roberts went up on same charge and got off scott free? So why was Kavanagh red carded etc?

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I don't think he should be getting a lengthy ban, because from what you've been saying he's had no previous issues. But he shouldn't be allowed to play the week after the incident.

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