Yes we have a chance provided we get to the Grand Final at least once hopefully more, keep increasing the crowds and really push that new stand as well as making sure the stadium is well kept (not with the current regime it won't but lets hope CMBC get a proper stadium manager in).

I get annoyed that people are saying it has to be Widnes - yer they are in front of us with their ground and winning the NRC but we will catch them up on those two, yer their crowds are bigger but they have not had the depths of desapir to suffer like we have since 1999 really. The main difference is they have a money man, that should not come into it as rich chairman can be short term it should be looked at in the long term = sustainable. Plus Widnes are like us near existing SL clubs.
I think we and Widnes should be both be looked at for admission against existing SL clubs that fail to meet the SL criteria.

As for Toulouse, why?
So it further justifies having Catalans in and give them a derby?
They don't have the ground, they don't have the support (inflated figures are given deffo) and they will be yet another expensive trip for fans to make, they are unlikeley to go to both French clubs have the RFL thought of that?

Should the potential for AWAY support not be taken into account, ask Leeds, Bradford, Cas and Huddersfield who they would rather play Fax or Toulouse??
No brainer, 1K minimum would go from Halifax.

Maybe Fax should start doing like other clubs and add 500 on the gates???

I agree mate fax and widnes should replace salford and wakey.

Maybe we should offer the RFL false promises, its worked for some clubs in the past. We will increase our attendances

To make the competition really European, get the French TV money and more matches on TV. The Europeanisation is a one way street, and it is the street to make of the SL one of the grand European competition while it was until recently a regional competition snubbed by Southerners in England.
I understand that some fans of good CC clubs are upset by this development, but let me give me a comparison.

Today a reporter from ITV commenting Le Tour reminded the viewers that initially it was a national race from France and now it is dominated by foreigners. For sure French would like to see French win the Tour, but if this race has become the race number one in the World it is by welcoming the best riders of the world. French are proud of this race, even if French riders do not win as much as in the early days...

The SL is different obviously and in particular in the fact that English clubs will always be in the topflight of SL (at least in the next 70 years). Having a great European competition will bring money, interest in the South of England and increased TV. This rise in profile will naturally dwindle down to the CC which will become the anti-chamber of SL (and hopefully P&R will be reinstated at some point).

I have no illusion of convincing you as I understand that you are likely to be frustrated by the difference between the performance of your team on the field and its chance to go in SL. However, I would like to state my conviction that the Europeanisation of the SL will be for the greatest good of RL in England. I expect crowds to increase over time and the interest and TV coverage of CC to increase.

I agree that expansion is good for the game. But this should be seperate to the natural progression of teams from the games heartlands. If a team from Europe are ready then they should be in, but not at the exspense of a current team.

I cant see any reason stopping all three of Widnes, Toulouse and Fax going into SL next. Us and Widnes replacing Salford and Wakefield/Celtic, and Toulouse going in as an expansion side.

Just a thought but...........
How many football Clubs come from London?
How many RL clubs come out of Sydney?

Cant understand why being in W Yorks should go against us, i would call that discrimination in any book!

Agree with most here - no.

If you can dominate the Championship from now until the end of next season, they could sneak in if a SL club goes down the pan or if Widnes do. I'm pretty confident we'll get in next time.

They have developed International class players and at least 1 world class player, when was the last time fax did?

The best thing we can ALL do, is make it almost impossible not to pick us, or at least consider expanding the comp to the same as the NRL.

We do that as fans by turning up, supprting in numbers, bringing friends along, buy shirts, cash fax, and making sure our club is beyond criticism.

Were half way there, with a stand, a trophy, increased support were in a very good position. We have a population greater than Widnes, Leigh and Castleford by quite a bit (yes i studied Geography)

Maybe we do need to forget that Hudds, Bfd and Leeds are bigger and start focusing our great rugby town, a founder member and a place of great potential.

I think all the negativity started with Gartland and was left in tatters after Nigel Woods stint. We all wax lyrical about Brook and Ackroyds days but we punched above our weight for a bit and paid the price financially. Good times all the same, and im very greatful to them.

Come on you Blues!

I think wakey been lucky to get a top class coach in kear.He gets the best out of players and i sure he be a success at any club.If he left wakey i am sure their results would change.Kear go back to a bigger club such as hull.

p.d thats poor

We could start a whole new thread on this one, every week we watch lads that started with us starring in Super League games, im not even going to bore you with names, i dont have time.. I hope that Tickles your fancy, and Grix you in a better frame of mind, Chester an idea, I have a friend with Hodgsons disease.... oh im bored already, you clearly know too little to waste my time Plenty have come to Fax as teenagers, we do after all have the best Amatuer RL side in the country a stones throw from the Shay... but then again you know Sid'all'. so i wont go on anymore.